Re: [Ayatana] [Usability] GNOME Main Menu and the Distribution Logo

2010-06-22 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On 2010-06-22, Calum Benson wrote: > > On 21 Jun 2010, at 15:51, Jarlath Reidy wrote: >> >> 4) I like the number four, but I can't think of and idea to put here. > > That would probably be "don't show a distro logo on the desktop at all > (except maybe in the default background where it's under th

Re: [Ayatana] [Usability] GNOME Main Menu and the Distribution Logo

2010-06-22 Thread Allan Caeg
Sounds reasonable. Distro guys, what do you think? On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Calum Benson wrote: > > On 21 Jun 2010, at 15:51, Jarlath Reidy wrote: > > > > 4) I like the number four, but I can't think of and idea to put here. > > That would probably be "don't show a distro logo on the des

[Ayatana] Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?

2010-06-22 Thread Luke Benstead
Hi all, Here's this week's bug bear of mine: http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6311/as7ob3.png Can we make that any less user friendly? We present the user a dialog, which no matter which option they choose leaves them with behaviour they don't want. Choose "Delete" and you lose your applet perm

Re: [Ayatana] [Usability] GNOME Main Menu and the Distribution Logo

2010-06-22 Thread Allan Caeg
I believe that branding should be present whenever the GNOME Panel is present, but it shouldn't be welded to "Applications" on the Main Menu applet. Branding is just that important for a default GNOME setup. The thing with the Panel is, applets should work in harmony. We should consider the behavi

Re: [Ayatana] Secure Identity Design

2010-06-22 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On 2010-06-21, David Hamm wrote: > One of the best things since buttered toast is being able to sync user > information across platforms, and the ease of contacting/accessing other > peoples information securely. +1 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad

Re: [Ayatana] Updating UI issues

2010-06-22 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Hamm wrote on 21/06/10 16:28: >... > On a more professional note. Android recently added a check box to all > apps in their "software center" to allow updates without confirmation. > Despite security advocates, will there be an option for "other

Re: [Ayatana] Two suggested designs for the Sound Indicator

2010-06-22 Thread Diego Moya
On 21 June 2010 09:35, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: >Diego Moya wrote on 04/05/10 20:20: >> I like somebody's proposal of being able to drag the closed panel icon >> left and right to change the slide without needing to open the menu >> first. This way I would almost recover the previous functionalit

Re: [Ayatana] Updating UI issues

2010-06-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Matthew Paul Thomas" wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >David Hamm wrote on 21/06/10 16:28: >>... >> On a more professional note. Android recently added a check box to all >> apps in their "software center" to allow updates without confirmation. >> Despite security advoc

Re: [Ayatana] Two suggested designs for the Sound Indicator

2010-06-22 Thread Diego Moya
On 22 June 2010 12:31, Diego Moya wrote: > What I suggested is having volume > sliders in each application* * for multimedia applications that include media-player controls, that is. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana

Re: [Ayatana] Updating UI issues

2010-06-22 Thread David Siegel
I enabled automatic updating on my Nexus One, and I have to say it's a bummer! While dealing with updates all of the time can be a drag, I miss being notified of new releases of software because those notifications give me the opportunity to read changes and learn about new features. So, if we do g

Re: [Ayatana] Updating UI issues

2010-06-22 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 11:57 +0100, David Siegel wrote: > I enabled automatic updating on my Nexus One, and I have to say it's a > bummer! While dealing with updates all of the time can be a drag, I > miss being notified of new releases of software because those > notifications give me the opportuni

Re: [Ayatana] Updating UI issues

2010-06-22 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Scott Kitterman wrote on 22/06/10 11:54: > > "Matthew Paul Thomas" wrote: >... >> Yes, we agreed at UDS that we should move towards installing updates >> automatically whenever possible. But it's still important to make the >> interface for manual up

[Ayatana] Yet another discussion on window resizing

2010-06-22 Thread Dylan McCall
Here is yet another discussion on resizing windows, this time driven by status bars! MacOS has a similar situation to us, with very narrow window borders. In its case, they don't even _try_ to offer resizing by the window edge. (The idea being, I suppose, that any control less than five pixels in

Re: [Ayatana] Updating UI issues

2010-06-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Matthew Paul Thomas" wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >Scott Kitterman wrote on 22/06/10 11:54: >> >> "Matthew Paul Thomas" wrote: >>... >>> Yes, we agreed at UDS that we should move towards installing updates >>> automatically whenever possible. But it's still import

Re: [Ayatana] [Usability] GNOME Main Menu and the Distribution Logo

2010-06-22 Thread David Hamm
I can see how the distro icon might not relate to the applications menu... so why not change the icon to the face of whoever has the most commits? Maybe update it monthly? They shall be the sun light of inspiration. I like to think of the left and right top corners as the sun and the moon. On the

Re: [Ayatana] Yet another discussion on window resizing

2010-06-22 Thread Mark Curtis
I'm not sure what "cool maximize behaviour" you're referring to. As far as the mockup, please make it possible to resize windows from more than just the bottom right corner. Obvious comparisons to Mac OS aside (of which there are too many with Ubuntu's recent directions). Only being able to res

Re: [Ayatana] Yet another discussion on window resizing

2010-06-22 Thread Alex Launi
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Mark Curtis wrote: > Only being able to resize in one part of the window versus 8 is extremely > limiting. My understanding is that you're still *able* to resize from any of the borders as you are now, but we add a drag handle to make it *easier*. It might make

Re: [Ayatana] Yet another discussion on window resizing

2010-06-22 Thread Tyler Brainerd
Sent from my iPod On Jun 22, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Mark Curtis wrote: > I'm not sure what "cool maximize behaviour" you're referring to. > I believe he was referring to the maximize behavior which does not max to screen space, but rather, to the size needed to see all of the content of the wind

Re: [Ayatana] Yet another discussion on window resizing

2010-06-22 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 10:33, Dylan McCall wrote: > The resize control should go _behind_ the window, not in front of > it. That way it sticks out from the window but doesn't interfere with > anything in the client area. (As drawn there, it would become very > difficult for some people to use sc

Re: [Ayatana] Start Menu Concept

2010-06-22 Thread Jarlath Reidy
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:10 PM, David Hamm wrote: > http://i.imgur.com/0bC6I.jpg > > This is what I imagine purgatory to be. A vortex of eternal clicking. Personally, I abhorr scrollbars and tabs in a menu - especially one accessed as frequently as a launcher. I think it will be a real challeng

Re: [Ayatana] Start Menu Concept

2010-06-22 Thread Tyler Brainerd
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Jarlath Reidy wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:10 PM, David Hamm wrote: > >> http://i.imgur.com/0bC6I.jpg >> >> This is what I imagine purgatory to be. A vortex of eternal clicking. > > Personally, I abhorr scrollbars and tabs in a menu - especially one > acce

Re: [Ayatana] Start Menu Concept

2010-06-22 Thread David Hamm
I'll match your quote, "This is what I imagine purgatory to be. A vortex of eternal clicking." with a quote, "imo, id have just applications and recent with a side arrow to expand either, knocking out the places when expanded." so in essence it would by default look like the windows start menu, w

Re: [Ayatana] Start Menu Concept

2010-06-22 Thread David Hamm
if you wanted to save the extra click, just like how the current ubuntu menu opens up a sub menu when you hover over a selection (accessories), you could have the box scroll to follow the mouse. Or just make it expand out larger to accommodate the larger selection. I could probably argue the desig

Re: [Ayatana] Start Menu Concept

2010-06-22 Thread Martin Owens
On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 10:10 -0700, David Hamm wrote: > http://i.imgur.com/0bC6I.jpg > Idea's taken from: > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1476241 > imo, id have just applications and recent with a side arrow to expand > either, knocking out the places when expanded. I think the best UI I

Re: [Ayatana] Start Menu Concept

2010-06-22 Thread Allan Caeg
Sounds good. Now, I want to test that and see how it will work on my desktop (or laptop). It may just be too much of a clutter for people like me, who don't bother using menus for launching because of GNOME Do. On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Martin Owens wrote: > On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 10:10 -

Re: [Ayatana] Yet another discussion on window resizing

2010-06-22 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:33:27 -0700 Dylan McCall wrote: > Here is yet another discussion on resizing windows, this time driven > by status bars! > > MacOS has a similar situation to us, with very narrow window borders. > In its case, they don't even _try_ to offer resizing by the window > edge. (

Re: [Ayatana] Start Menu Concept

2010-06-22 Thread David Hamm
One of the neat things about cardapio is its ability to be resized. Perhaps this could solve both problems of being to large or small. After stretching to a certain size the icons enlarge and a lock (desktop) icon could appear. On the other end, shrinking it past the minimum icon size limit would b