Dave, Have you worked with or seen the Smarty card reader from Fischer? I was wondering what you thought of it. Apparently it works with SLB and litronic software/cards -- at least on Win boxes. The Smarty SC reader apparently it fits in a standard floppy drive Everyone has a floppy drive. I very intrigued by this. -- Mike B. *************************************************************** Linux Smart Card Developers - M.U.S.C.L.E. (Movement for the Use of Smart Cards in a Linux Environment) http://www.linuxnet.com/smartcard/index.html ***************************************************************