3. It's probably more usefull if you can set that as executive alert, instead 
as individual (per entry) alert. 

4. I see...I'll have to see how that would work..... 

 

Dirk Bulinckx. 

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1 - Excellent 

2 - understand that - already include the checkresponse on the screen. However, 
what the Service Desk see is a big chunk of red text (they don't read the small 
print...). Perhaps a clever bit of HTML coding could exclude timeouts, but that 
would be beyond me... 

3 - That gives me another idea. I wonder if it would be useful to have an 
alerts section under Setup that is linked to SA as a whole (i.e. a batch of 
alerts/actions that is worked through whenever SA finishes a check cycle or at 
a specific time) rather than being specific to an individual check. Do you see 
what I mean? 

4 - I think we're talking at cross purposes. What I'm talking about is the 
individual days on the calendar component on the "On Call" tab for each person. 
Each date on that calendar component is deselected by default (in other words, 
you have to select when they're on call, rather than selecting when they're 
*not* on call. If that could be reversed, that would be of much more use for 
us. Our typical scenario to use this is when someone goes on holiday - it would 
be much easier to set someone to be "off" for 28 days a year than to set them 
"on" for 337 days a year! 

Cheers, 

Ian 
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1) Predefined alerts: looks like something usefull (I'll add that to our 
to-look-at list) 
2) Failed check "down": well a DOWN is the status you get when SA can't say for 
sure that it's UP.  If you want to know the reason of the down, then use the 
checkresponse (this can be viewed in the interface, used in the alerts and used 
within the HTML output) 
3) XML output: correct this can't be done each cycle, what I can see as a 
possible option is to add that to the alerts - Execute Command - Internal 
Servers Alive command (something for the TODO list) 
4) On Call: if the On-Call would be enabled by default, then sending the alert 
to that person would not work, as "just" enabling isn't enough you would 
alsoneed to set the dates when that person is on-call. 
 
 
 
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Hi Dirk (et al for info), 

We had an internal service review today on our monitoring services (of which SA 
forms the backbone). A number of things came up as a result of that, which I 
would like to pass on as enhancement requests: 

* We need to do some significant restructuring of alerts, and to do this check 
by check is going to be a huge piece of work. What would be really great would 
be to have a number of predefined alerts (e.g. Alert A is an alert set up to 
send SMS to engineer team X immediately; Alert B does the same but to engineer 
team Y; Alert C is set up to send an email to management group Z after 3 downs, 
etc). My idea is that you would then, in each check, be able to say "use 
predefined alerts A, B and D", as well as being able to create additional 
alerts for that specific check. I could imagine this being done with tick boxes 
- i.e. have (say) 10 predefined alert types which you can select within a 
check. The point of all this is that, if I need to make changes such as 
changing who gets the alerts, or what the wording of the alerts are, or when 
they get sent, or even add a new alert to a number of checks, one can simply 
change a single predefined alert, and/or tick an additional box in each check 
that is to be affected. Do you follow me? 
* I can adjust when an alert is sent (e.g. after x downs), and I can adjust how 
often a check is done (e.g. every x cycles). However, what I can't do is 
determine when a failed check should be considered a "down". Example: as 
mentioned in the past, we have a COM check that looks at an SQL db on a server, 
which quite often fails with a timeout. I have adjusted the alert to only go 
out after 2 downs (and in fact not to go out at all if the response includes 
"Timeout", but that doesn't stop that check from going red on our screens. (To 
be absolutely accurate, therefore, the issue is when a failed check should be 
presented as a "down" on the on the HTML outputs, but that's probably getting 
too complicated...) 
* XML output (that favourite topic of the discussion group) - I can manually 
export to XML, but I can't (I don't think) have SA do that automatically every 
check cycle. Hey - I don't understand XML at all, but my colleagues tell me 
that they can do something clever with it... 
* I think I've asked this before, but I'll double check... The on-call schedule 
for people defaults to "Not on call". Would it be possible (as standard or as 
an option) to change this to defaulting to "On call"? 



Thoughts? 

Many thanks as ever, 

Ian 

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