1. The part on ESX is rather simple, the "*nix diskspace" checker can do 
diskspace checks towards most *nix systems. On an ESX system there is a 
different command to get the volume info (and diskspace as such) BUT also in a 
totally different output format then what is done on "normal" *nix systems.  We 
want to extend the *nix diskspace check so that is able to get the info on ESX 
too.  This would be about an hour work, IF we would have access to an ESX 
system.  If there are changes/additions needed to the *nix diskspace check for 
Xen, then I will be happy to do them, again IF we get access to such a system.  
Idem for VMWare server and MS Hyper-V (although I suppose that as this is MS 
that this will already work with the "normal" diskspace check. 

 

2. Currently SA is able to do MS SQL checks using DMO.  With SQL 2005 DMO is no 
longer in the product (SQL product), but still available through a download.  
We are looking at extending the MS SQL check so that a native MS SQL 2005 check 
is also possible without the use of SQL DMO. An Oracle check is already within 
Servers Alive.  With Oracle the check is easier to adopt, the Oracle APIs are 
the same still ages, it's just a question of being able to use a more recent 
client or not.  The last client that I tested was the 10g client.  For mySQL 
there is an add-on on http://www.woodstone.nu/salive/addons.asp 
(http://www.woodstone.nu/salive/addons.asp) For PostgresSQL there is currently 
no check available, except the generic ODBC check.  If we get "enough" requests 
for a PostGresSQL check, we could try to make a native PostgresSQL check too 
(as external COM check that is). 

 

 

 

 

Dirk Bulinckx. 

From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark 
Perry
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:26 PM
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Salive roadmap 

 

Hi Dirk, 

 

I suspect you really didn't want to go down this route but since you have it is 
now exposed this for discussion and unfortunatley I do have a few thoughts on 
this: 

 

The "next" Major release part there is no problem with BUT the "Some parts "bit 
I am hoping is just a fluffy list of things you'd like to do, I will explain 

 

1.  Targeting ESX server is admirable and I have trialled it and rejected it 
(for now)  based upon the fact that it was overkill for what my company needed 
and cost more than you think, i.e. the intial outlay is fairly substantial as 
in order to really utilize ESX you need a couple of servers minimum (fault 
tolerance else risk losing serval servers at once) per physical site.  Need a 
lot of RAM and CPU power to really get to grips with it as VMware charge 
licencing per CPU ESX is about 2K and unless your running NIX flavour os Guests 
you still pay M$ licencing on top of that for your guests.  Also if you want 
fault tolerance you also need to purchase Vmotion and DRM.... Unfortuately my 
company is not a datacenter SOooooo we fall back to plan 2, VMware Server (the 
free version previously known as GSX). As far as I can tell the limitations of 
having Server as opposed to ESX don't really cause any issues as we upgrade 
existing servers to run linux and then put  a couple of servers, and dare I say 
often only 1... many will understand why but for those that don't, once you 
convert a machine to a virtual macine it becomes simply files, which can be 
moved from one host to another and you can even back up these machines as 
files, what this in turn means is that not only can you recover a physical 
machine quickly but you can also save on backup licences for machines you don't 
require file level backups and for those that do use shadow copies therefore 
you still don't need a backup client licence.  So should ESX checks not also 
include VMware Server checks for those not ready to embrace ESX, also whay 
about M$ Hyper-V (soon to be) or Xen? 

 

2.  If incorporating SQL2005 checks should not mysql, postgresql, oracle checks 
not also be included? 

 


Sorry but this isn't complete as I realised I was starting to make it a bit 
wordy so cut short...  Any questions or thoughts though are welcome. 

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From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dirk 
Bulinckx
Sent: 25 November 2007 16:11
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Salive roadmap 

Those are the main items that I see for the next MAJOR  release: 

 

               * login-profiles for nt based checks 

               * real webserver for setup (and probably also for 
editing/creating new entries) - with some security features like SSL (https) 
and login security 

               * additional threaded alerts 

               * additional threaded checks 

               * mib browser for snmp checks 

 

Some parts that I'm also looking at are: 

               * VMWare ESX diskspace check (*nix df)             <- this would 
be an easy one IF we had access (in SSH) to an ESX system (hint hint :-)) 

               * SQL2005 check 

               * WMI check (for Exchange for example) 

               * Groups alerts 

               * splitting the checking/alerting/displaying 

 

And depending on the "success" for the agent-check, the enhancement of the 
agents (giving it more checking options and probably also giving it alerting 
options) 

 

 

I'm sure that before we actualy get to the next major release that we will have 
much more :-) 

 

 

 

Dirk Bulinckx. 

From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Petr 
Bohac
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 6:16 AM
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Salive roadmap 

 

Yes, I did it. You might not remember the issue but you were working closely 
with me on the problem. Running all the time dbgview, sending you reports ... 


 


Ok, remote agent check is a huge new feature. That's true. I don't expect those 
2 features I mentioned to be in 6.1. I mean people proposed some features they 
would like to have it in the SA, you said, ok, I'll think about that. Most of 
them were really interesting things so I think it will be nice to have a page 
(or whatever) with a list of features and short comment with them (might be in 
6.5, definitely not in 7, not possible etc) ... nothing more. 


 


Thanks you will think about that ;) 


 


Petr 

 
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From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dirk 
Bulinckx
Sent: 24 November 2007 21:46
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Salive roadmap 

About the stability, did you make the registry change explain on the beta page 
for build 2149? 

 I see about 40 "added" items.  For example adding the "remote agent check" 
might be one line, but is a huge new feature. 

The 2 features you talk about (password manager and mass editing of checks) 
will NOT be in v6.1 

The current beta is from a feature point of view what will be in v6.1 

 

I'll see for a "roadmap" for the next major release&#8230; 

 

 

Dirk Bulinckx. 

From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Petr 
Bohac
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:11 PM
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Salive roadmap 

 

Well I do check the beta page. Alright there's been some updates to the Salive, 
I can't say there wasn't, but I think those were mainly bug fixes. Don't get me 
wrong I was just asking for some road map or anything because there were so 
many requests ... 


 


As for features ... again, there were many requests, password manager, mass 
editing of checks etc. ... and actually my main concern is stability. Since we 
upgraded from the 5.x to 6.x and 6.1 beta (we were forced, just because of a 
bug in the SMPP alerting engine) we lost stability. The SA hangs from time to 
time for no reason. The problem wasn't detected so I'm forced to check the SA 
service by vbscript. I believe I'm not alone since I do read mailing list. 


 


Thank you 


Petr 


 

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From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dirk 
Bulinckx
Sent: 24 November 2007 20:21
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Salive roadmap 

The proposals that were done at that time were not realy GUI improvements.  I 
"think" we did add a few things that were said at that time.  There is a beta 
site/page that shows all changes that we did, it's on http://beta.woodstone.nu 
(http://beta.woodstone.nu) 

 

Saying "lacks many features" is very vague, can you be more concrete with that? 

 

 

Dirk Bulinckx. 

From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Petr 
Bohac
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:51 PM
To: Servers Alive Discussion List
Subject: [SA-list] Salive roadmap 

 

Hi Dirk, 


 


a couple of weeks ago you asked us what we would like to improve on GUI and 
many of us sent a bunch of proposals for a new features. You said that some of 
them might be very easily included in future betas (6.1). So I'd like to ask 
whether you have some roadmap or some beta status page stating what you are up 
to. 


 


I don't really know where is salive going and it might be useful to give us 
some info. Indeed is Salive a great product for a great price but it also lacks 
many features. At this moment I'm being pushed to look for other alternatives 
(IP Monitor, OPS Manager 2007 ...) and there are many reasons like 
manageability, reporting, stability ... 


 


Thank you 


Petr 

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