I'm just starting to investigate this, so it may take a few days. Once I've worked out what's useful I'll let everyone know.
Now, this is generating a few thoughts in my mind. Although it is clearly possible to use SA to do in-depth analysis of things (especially with SNMP), it's not particularly easy to set that up - you have to know the right OIDs etc and manually plug everything in. In any case, I think SA's great strength (and certainly the way we use it most of the time) is to give a fairly high level, red/green "is it running or isn't it?" display. However, there are a number of things that I'd love to be able to do on a more in-depth basis. An example would be monitoring Notes servers for mail throughput, stuck mail, number of users etc etc etc. I could put all that through SA but it would take up a lot of the cycle time, and as I say above it would be a fairly manual process to add everything in. Currently we typically monitor up to about 5 things per server, but the sort of thing I'm thinking about would get heaps more info. What I'm wondering is if there is scope for a companion product to SA, geared towards deeper monitoring/analysis of individual systems or servers. I'm thinking of (probably) an SNMP based system whereby you could load a MIB and select (via drop down box populated by the text in the MIB) what OIDs you want to check. You would configure a bunch of these checks for an individual system, and then set it to run either every x minutes or on demand (preferably via a web interface). The key point is that this is a separate system, running separately from the main SA box and therefore not interfering with the main monitoring. Most of the time I can (for example) ignore in-depth Notes stats, but if there's a problem I can just go to the right page for the Notes box in question and generate a pile of info to see what's going on. Is that feasible? Would it be useful? I'm sure Dirk could knock something up in half an hour or so... ;-) Ian _________________________________ Ian K Gray OEL IS - European Infrastructure Support Tel: +44 1236 502661 Mob: +44 7881 518854 Me transmitte sursum, caledoni! "Dirk Bulinckx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: Servers Alive Discussion List <[email protected]> 25/05/2007 09:15 Please respond to Servers Alive Discussion List <[email protected]> To Servers Alive Discussion List <[email protected]> cc Subject RE: [SA-list] Re: Notes DB checker If you could share a few OIDs with the list that would be great :-) Dirk Bulinckx. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 10:06 AM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Re: Notes DB checker Aha! That document (or one linked from it) was the key. I had installed the Notes SNMP agent, but I hadn't enabled support for SNMP queries from it. Here's the link for the benefit of anyone else trying to do this: http://www-12.lotus.com/ldd/doc/domino_notes/7.0/help7_admin.nsf/f4b82fbb75e942a6852566ac0037f284/bf1db81d408af2ce8525706f0065eadb?OpenDocument The "load quryset" command is the critical one - otherwise SNMP gets just reply that the server is down (doh!) Thanks Dirk! Ian _________________________________ Ian K Gray OEL IS - European Infrastructure Support Tel: +44 1236 502661 Mob: +44 7881 518854 Me transmitte sursum, caledoni! "Dirk Bulinckx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: Servers Alive Discussion List <[email protected]> 24/05/2007 17:40 Please respond to Servers Alive Discussion List <[email protected]> To Servers Alive Discussion List <[email protected]> cc Subject RE: [SA-list] Re: Notes DB checker If you want to get info from Notes via SNMP, then you can use 2 techniques: * SNMP GET: you initiated the request and the notes server sends back the answer * SNMP trap sending: the Notes servers sends the trap and SA can receive it. Based on http://www-12.lotus.com/ldd/doc/domino_notes/7.0/help7_admin.nsf/f4b82fbb75e942a6852566ac0037f284/116f0f0226fcdd1c8525706f0065ea52?OpenDocument (http://www-12.lotus.com/ldd/doc/domino_notes/7.0/help7_admin.nsf/f4b82fbb75e942a6852566ac0037f284/116f0f0226fcdd1c8525706f0065ea52?OpenDocument) I would say that there is an SNMP agent for Notes/Domino and that it should be possible to get info from it. Dirk Bulinckx. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 6:26 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Re: Notes DB checker Sorry, yes, meant to send an update to the list this morning. I was (as Dirk says) using the windows hostname for the check, on the basis that the Notes server name isn't registered in DNS, and the IP address usually works in Notes anyway... However, as I now understand it the Notes DB check doesn't go anywhere near DNS - it's using the wet string built into the Notes Client on the SA box. Using the Notes Server name makes everything start flying... Two suggestions following on from that. One is that, if there is an update to the Notes check addon at some point, it would be worth clarifying that point in the help file and in the configuration screen (i.e. "Notes Server Name" rather than "Server Name". The other is that it would be really useful to be able to get more info on Notes (i.e. more than just db availability). DB size, mail throughput, pending messages, are the sort of thing that would be really useful to check. In theory I would have thought one could do that with SNMP, but it doesn't seem to be working. The following somewhat confusing line on an IBM technote (http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21169283) makes me wonder if it can't be done: "Please note that Domino does not support receiving SNMP traps at this point, only sending them." When they talk about "receiving SNMP traps", do you think they mean SNMP Gets? Seems bizarre if so. Anyone poking Notes with SNMP? Ian _________________________________ Ian K Gray OEL IS - European Infrastructure Support Tel: +44 1236 502661 Mob: +44 7881 518854 Me transmitte sursum, caledoni! "Dirk Bulinckx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: Servers Alive Discussion List <[email protected]> 24/05/2007 16:50 Please respond to Servers Alive Discussion List <[email protected]> To Servers Alive Discussion List <[email protected]> cc Subject RE: [SA-list] Re: Notes DB checker Problem is already solved :-) Ian was using the "windows" hostname instead of the Notes-hostname..... Dirk Bulinckx. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ferrell, Jim Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 5:46 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Re: Notes DB checker The Notes addon is working for for me. Occasionally after MS patches, we have to rerun the Lotus Notes client setup. Other than that, no problems. Jim Ferrell EDS - Allison Transmission 4700 W 10th St Mail Code 462-470-H04 Indianapolis, IN 4622 phone: 317-242-0034 (8-252) mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 317-716-4541 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 3:25 AM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: [SA-list] Re: Notes DB checker Unusual for this list - no responses at all. Is anybody actually using the Notes addon? Is anyone monitoring Notes via another method? Ian _________________________________ Ian K Gray OEL IS - European Infrastructure Support Tel: +44 1236 502661 Mob: +44 7881 518854 Me transmitte sursum, caledoni! ----- Forwarded by Ian Gray/OEL/OKI_DATA_CORP/OKI_ELECTRIC/US on 24/05/2007 08:18 ----- Ian Gray/OEL/OKI_DATA_CORP/OKI_ELECTRIC/US 23/05/2007 13:19 To [email protected] cc Subject Notes DB checker I'm trying to get the Notes DB addon working, but it's proving difficult... I usually just get a "did not respond within the given timeout" message, although I sometimes get a "cannot access database.nsf". The password is the correct one for the notes ID on the SA box, and that ID has rights to the DB in question. Anyone any experience of using this tool? 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