trims atas infonya, cut loss memang sdh mjd bagian dlam trading, krn di hampir 
setiap  teknik trding selalu disebutkan oleh masing2 pnarasumbernya, cut loss 
memang salah satu kriteria (prasyarat) bahwa dia, anda adalah trader..

trader jg manusia, bukan malaikat, jd ada salahnya jg.. dgn cut loss berarti 
kita secara jujur mengakui kesalahan kita sendiri. 

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scs!ta

--- On Mon, 9/20/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

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Subject: Re: [saham] Jeff Cooper as a hit & run trader
To: [email protected]
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Barusan saya iseng2 lagi googling lebih lanjut... :)

Ternyata yang bener Pak hc_stk...

Jeff Cooper menjelaskan sbb:
--quote--
I became a much more profitable trader when I learned to scratch a trade.
This means breaking even, losing an eighth or a quarter, etc. I have learned
to put my ego in check and realize I am usually right approximately 60
percent of the time. If I can minimize my losses when I am wrong, I am
assured of remaining a profitable trader.


--Jeff Cooper

--unquote--

Link-nya sbb:
http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/stocks/education/tinsight/08092001-17898.cfm

Jadi udah jelas skrg, maksudnya adalah disiplin dalam cut loss spt yg Pak 
hc_stk bilang. Kalau yg saya contohkan, itu ternyata hanya dalam horseracing 
gambling. Sorry ya kalo sempet misleading..hehehe.

Thanks.

Hadi
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:40:41 +0000To: Milis 
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Pak, to scrach something itu slang amrik (bahasa gaul), artinya untuk 
membatalkan atau membuang sesuatu.

Dan dari konteks nya, sy lebih percaya kalau yg dimaksud adalah cut loss.





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      iyaa pak setuju, saya tambahkan saja, biasa bahasa inggris kalau 
diterjemahkan, penafsirannya lain-lain, kalau penafsiran saya utk no-12 ini, 
ybs akan semakin tinggi profitnya disaat awal (mengawali, sebelum) trading, ybs 
sudah mempersiapkan portofolio apa yang akan dia *tembak*, semakin 
terbiasa/membiasakan diri mempersiapkan coret-coretan dari emiten yang dia 
fokus, *mungkin* feeling analysisnya akan semakin tajam ~ kalau sebutan Pak 
Irwan, intuisi / tebak2an,, otomatis semakin profit dari emiten yang sudah ybs 
persiapkan.
cmiiw..

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Scratch itu bisa di terjemahkan "corat- coret" alias bikin coretan.

Just My 2Cents, 
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Saya masih belum paham dg yg ini, maklum inggris saya msh termehek2...

12. I became a much more profitable trader when I learned to scratch a trade.

Maksudnya "Scratch a Trade" apa ya Pak Tobeno? Scratch = Garuk???


Rgds,
PPD-46


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kalau mbaca nomor 4, ini tipikal orangnya one-day trading, namun sebelum 
stock-pick sudah diperhitungkan masak2 tentunya (ref no 12 dan 8 (+1, 2 & 3)).. 
cmiiw

good refference.. tq

--- On Sat, 9/18/10, tobeno <[email protected]> wrote:


From: tobeno <[email protected]>
Subject: [saham] Jeff Cooper as a hit & run trader
To: [email protected]

Date: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 3:38 PM


Mungkin ada yang ingin tau apa yang dilakukan Cooper sebagai Hit & Run Trader?

1. Money management is more important than entry strategies.


2. Follow the trend.

3. Knowing the sponsorship.

4. I start every day at zero.

5. Never
 forget:  The longer a position is held, the more things can go wrong.

6. Because of the high turnover of trading, commision costs must be kept to a 
minimum.

7. Most stockbrokers are good people.  Unfortunately, most (not all) do not 
have a clue.


8. Trading is a serious business.

9. Overall, stock market direction is fun to ponder, but beyond a few days it 
is impossible to predict.

10. Most of my trading decisions are made by relying on tecnical analysis and 
pattern recognition.  Fundamental factors, though considered, are not as 
important as technical factors.


11. I prepare for the day, as much as possible, the evening before.

12. I became a much more profitable trader when I learned to scratch a trade.

13. Doubling-up is for lossers!  When trade moves against me I look to get out 
of it.


14. I lighten my positions and lessen my trading before news events (major 
economic
 news, earnings, etc.).  Too many traders get killed when they make a "bet" on 
the report and are wrong.  If you need to gamble, go to Vegas.

15. This is not an easy game.  You must be prepared to works as hard and to be 
as persistent as a professional athlete to become trully successful.


Ada yang sudah coba?
Let share.

tobeno
"Everything that doesn't kills us, will only make us stronger"

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