Hi Xie,

Thank you for noting this issue! Please check the newly merged changes 
where it has been corrected: https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36962

I hadn't yet added the matroid-database package (and the AllMatroids 
method) back then.

On Monday, January 27, 2025 at 11:28:12 AM UTC Xie wrote:

> Thank you. A matroid is sparse paving if both the matroid itself and its 
> dual are paving. This criterion can be used to count the number of sparse 
> paving matroids, assuming the .is_paving() method is correct. Sparse paving 
> matroids have several definitions, but as far as I know, their definition 
> is unambiguous.
>
> 在2025年1月27日星期一 UTC+8 02:24:58<dim...@gmail.com> 写道:
>
>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 11:03 PM Xie <xiehon...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > for M in matroids.AllMatroids(8, type='sparse_paving'): 
>> > ....: print(M) 
>> > sparse_paving_n08_r04_#0: Matroid of rank 4 on 8 elements with 56 bases 
>> > sparse_paving_n08_r05_#0: Matroid of rank 5 on 8 elements with 48 bases 
>> > sparse_paving_n08_r06_#0: Matroid of rank 6 on 8 elements with 24 bases 
>> > sparse_paving_n08_r07_#0: Matroid of rank 7 on 8 elements with 8 bases 
>> > sparse_paving_n08_r07_#1: Matroid of rank 7 on 8 elements with 7 bases 
>> > sparse_paving_n08_r08_#0: Matroid of rank 8 on 8 elements with 1 bases 
>> > 
>> > This can't be correct because almost all matroids are sparse paving. 
>>
>> this has been conjectured to be held asymptotically (i.e. as # n of 
>> elements goes to infinity) 
>> in https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ejc.2011.01.016 
>> and https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0196885812000802 
>>
>> With this in mind, it's hard to understand what exactly could be wrong 
>> there (as this is something for n=8, not for n->oo) 
>>
>>
>> > 
>> > In SageMath, the is_sparse_paving‘s Docstring defines: 
>> > 
>> > *"Return if 'self' is sparse-paving. 
>> > 
>> > A matroid is sparse-paving if the symmetric difference of every pair of 
>> circuits is greater than 2."* 
>> > 
>> > I believe this is incorrect! 
>>
>> indeed, this seems strange, and no references are provided. 
>> I've left a comment to this effect here: 
>> https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36962#issuecomment-2614537747 
>>
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