So far :

   - 
   
   Rebuild from scratch : sage command line crashes (same problem)
   - 
   
   After sage -f ipython : ditto.
   
In both cases, the sagemath Jupyter kernel works in both the Jupyter 
notebook and Jupyter lab

sage -i <SomeSagePackage> also works.

Worth a ticket <https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/32852#ticket>…, whose 
priority I’m uncertain about.

Obvious workaround : ./configure --with-system-python3=no && make

HTH,
​
Le mercredi 10 novembre 2021 à 12:31:06 UTC+1, Jan Groenewald a écrit :

> Maybe sage -f ipython will fix it?
>
>
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 at 13:22, Emmanuel Charpentier <emanuel.c...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> Le mercredi 10 novembre 2021 à 10:49:28 UTC+1, dim…@gmail.com a écrit :
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 10 Nov 2021, 09:45 Emmanuel Charpentier, <emanuel.c...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le mercredi 10 novembre 2021 à 10:41:59 UTC+1, dim...@gmail.com a 
>>>> écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> it might be that you have to rebuild all the cython/python packages of 
>>>>> Sage.
>>>>>
>>>>  
>>>> That amounts to rebuilding from scratch, no ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> not everything depends on python in Sage, e.g. GAP does not.
>>>
>>> at the very minimum, do
>>>
>>> make sagelib-clean
>>> followed by
>>> make build
>>>
>> No such luck : this crashes again. Grrr…
>>
>> The trace points to something called traitlets 
>> <https://traitlets.readthedocs.io/en/stable/>. Seems specific to 
>> interactive command-line use (sage -optional still parses its arguments 
>> and runs okay.).
>>
>> Attempting rebuilding from scratch…
>>
>>
>>> it's hard to say which of the gazzion of the other python spkgs is 
>>> affected
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 10 Nov 2021, 09:35 Emmanuel Charpentier, <
>>>>> emanuel.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A routine upgrade of Debian testing (where a few Python binaries were 
>>>>>> upgraded, broke a formerly functional (command line) Sage. It now 
>>>>>> crashes 
>>>>>> at startup :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> charpent@p-202-021:~$ sage
>>>>>> ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
>>>>>> │ SageMath version 9.5.beta2, Release Date: 2021-09-26               │
>>>>>> │ Using Python 3.9.8. Type "help()" for help.                        │
>>>>>> └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
>>>>>> ┏━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┓
>>>>>> ┃ Warning: this is a prerelease version, and it may be unstable.     ┃
>>>>>> ┗━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┛
>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>   File "/usr/local/sage-9/src/bin/sage-ipython", line 15, in <module>
>>>>>>     app.initialize()
>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/traitlets/config/application.py",
>>>>>>  line 88, in inner
>>>>>>     return method(app, *args, **kwargs)
>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/IPython/terminal/ipapp.py",
>>>>>>  line 308, in initialize
>>>>>>     super(TerminalIPythonApp, self).initialize(argv)
>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/traitlets/config/application.py",
>>>>>>  line 88, in inner
>>>>>>     return method(app, *args, **kwargs)
>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/IPython/core/application.py",
>>>>>>  line 450, in initialize
>>>>>>     self.parse_command_line(argv)
>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/IPython/terminal/ipapp.py",
>>>>>>  line 303, in parse_command_line
>>>>>>     return super(TerminalIPythonApp, self).parse_command_line(argv)
>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/traitlets/config/application.py",
>>>>>>  line 88, in inner
>>>>>>     return method(app, *args, **kwargs)
>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/traitlets/config/application.py",
>>>>>>  line 709, in parse_command_line
>>>>>>     self.cli_config = deepcopy(loader.load_config())
>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/traitlets/config/loader.py",
>>>>>>  line 851, in load_config
>>>>>>     self._parse_args(argv)
>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/traitlets/config/loader.py",
>>>>>>  line 908, in _parse_args
>>>>>>     self.parsed_data = self.parser.parse_args(to_parse)
>>>>>>   File "/usr/lib/python3.9/argparse.py", line 1834, in parse_args
>>>>>>     args, argv = self.parse_known_args(args, namespace)
>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/traitlets/config/loader.py",
>>>>>>  line 768, in parse_known_args
>>>>>>     return super().parse_known_args(args, namespace)
>>>>>>   File "/usr/lib/python3.9/argparse.py", line 1862, in parse_known_args
>>>>>>     namespace, args = self._parse_known_args(args, namespace)
>>>>>>   File "/usr/lib/python3.9/argparse.py", line 2076, in _parse_known_args
>>>>>>     start_index = consume_optional(start_index)
>>>>>>   File "/usr/lib/python3.9/argparse.py", line 2016, in consume_optional
>>>>>>     take_action(action, args, option_string)
>>>>>>   File "/usr/lib/python3.9/argparse.py", line 1944, in take_action
>>>>>>     action(self, namespace, argument_values, option_string)
>>>>>>   File 
>>>>>> "/usr/local/sage-9/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/traitlets/config/loader.py",
>>>>>>  line 933, in __call__
>>>>>>     namespace._flags.append(self.flag)
>>>>>> AttributeError: 'Namespace' object has no attribute '_flags'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rebuilding Sage (make build) was unsuccessful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, using Sage via the Jupyter notebook still works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Suggestions ?
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