On 10 July 2018 at 11:02, Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 10:58:45 AM UTC+1, John Cremona wrote:
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>> On 10 July 2018 at 10:48, Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> I imagine it makes little sense to ask for open-sourcing the kash
>>> package (have they sold stuff to somewhere, maybe?), although I might be
>>> wrong.
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>> I could ask Michael Pohst, though he has retired.
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> it's probably hopeless, as kash uses  Magma sources, see
> ftp://ftp.math.tu-berlin.de/pub/algebra/Kant/Kash_3/README
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> We would like to thank
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> o   Prof. J. Cannon at the University of Sydney, for the opportunity
>     of using the MAGMA C-kernel for the development of KANT V4,
>     the algorithmic part of KASH.
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Yes.  When Magma started in the 1990s it used KANT for its algebraic number
theory so there is some symbiosis there.  I think it also at one point used
PARI for multiprecision arithmetic: it does still use MPFR, MPC and some
GMP.


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>> John
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>>> On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 10:31:52 AM UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
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>>>> surprisingly, there are freash trac tickets proposing kash interface
>>>> improvements:
>>>> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/25488
>>>> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/25494
>>>> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/22982 (a meta-ticket where kash is a
>>>> part of)
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>>>> I think it's unfortunately a wasted effort (as far as kash goes)...
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>>>> On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 9:02:24 AM UTC+1, John Cremona wrote:
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>>>>> Thanks for the replies.  There should be a ticket opened for removing
>>>>> the current instructions to use kash, whether or not they are replaced by
>>>>> something else.
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>>>>> John
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>>>>> On 9 July 2018 at 23:48, Alexander Konovalov <alexander...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>> Note that the Alnuth package for GAP switched from KANT to PARI/GP,
>>>>>> with the support of the Bill Allombert who provided an equivalent of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> KANT code formerly used there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
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>>>>>> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 7:16:22 PM UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Imho kash has been totally bitrotten. The last release was in 2008.
>>>>>>> We should just remove that package and references to it.
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