On Oct 7, 5:02 pm, "Dr. David Kirkby" <david.kir...@onetel.net> wrote:
> On 10/ 7/10 08:55 PM, kcrisman wrote:
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> > On Oct 7, 11:44 am, "Dr. David Kirkby"<david.kir...@onetel.net>
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> >> On 10/ 6/10 03:18 PM, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote:
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> >>> Sage segfaults when printing a copy of something symbolics :
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> >>> sage: copy(x)
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> >> As I noted earlier, I see this on my machine (Sun Ultra 27 running 
> >> OpenSolaris).
> >> However, it must be relatively new, as I do *NOT* see the segfault at
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> >>http://t2nb.math.washington.edu:8000
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> >> which is running Sage 4.5.1. That said, that's a big-endian machine, which 
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> >> just be relevant.
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> > Conceivable, since it's definitely not new, as I get
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> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > | Sage Version 4.4.4, Release Date: 2010-06-23                       |
> > | Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.        |
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Loading Sage library. Current Mercurial branch is: hackbranch
> > sage: copy(x)
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> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > Unhandled SIGSEGV: A segmentation fault occurred in Sage.
> > This probably occurred because a *compiled* component
> > of Sage has a bug in it (typically accessing invalid memory)
> > or is not properly wrapped with _sig_on, _sig_off.
> > You might want to run Sage under gdb with 'sage -gdb' to debug this.
> > Sage will now terminate (sorry).
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
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> > While on my PPC OS X 10.4 machine, I just get a long hang (this is
> > 4.6.alpha2) with no output.
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> > So at any rate the behavior is very machine-dependent at this point,
> > but not really ideal on any of them (with the possible exception of
> > t2).
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> > - kcrisman
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> Worth noting is the PPC and SPARC are both big endian, so the fact it is ok on
> t2 does not mean it's only a problem on little endian machines.

Yes, but see my second message in this thread, where sage -gdb finds
something nasty.

> When Sage builds, there are around 3000 warnings messages from the compilers. 
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> can't help feeling we should be spending a bit more time looking over those, 
> and
> a bit less time adding new features.

Perhaps, but there is a very finite amount of time available.  As well
as expertise - I can report a bug, but have no idea about compiler
options (though I'm learning).  But we've had this discussion before -
I think that with incremental but very useful changes such as the
current Numpy/Scipy ticket we will get there, while not holding up
development (and hence interest and use) in other areas.

- kcrisman

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