Hi,

On Mar 27, 12:41 pm, Jason Grout <jason-s...@creativetrax.com> wrote:
> On 03/26/2010 11:40 PM, dabu wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > On Mar 26, 10:00 pm, Minh Nguyen<nguyenmi...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> Hi,
>
> >> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:47 AM, dabu<pallabb...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
> >> <SNIP>
>
> >>> It would be somehow more helpful if important sage components like
> >>> simpy and scipy are compatible by default and one does not have to
> >>> play with namespaces.
>
> >> See PEP 20 for a reason to use namespaces:
>
> > The issue is not with namespaces, which is a good programming
> > practice,  but with the incompatibility between simpy and scipy. I
> > believe some of these important packages should be integrated under
> > one umbrella.
>
> Are you aware that scipy and sympy are two completely separate projects
> that have little to do with each other?
Thanks, I am aware of that. the sympy and scipy are different project.
But I do not agree that they have little to do with each other.
> It's fine for scipy and for
> sympy to each import a diff function; the function makes sense in each
> package's context.  I think we would be overstepping our bounds to
> insist that the scipy folks rename their diff function because some
> other package out there also had a diff function.

We are not overstepping here , I am sorry if it sounded little off the
line:) From a user prospective it should be made quite clear what my
(our) demands are and to see whether it matches with others. For
example most people who use a CAS system may need some amount of
numerics and vice versa and something integrated like say Mathematica
would be much better to an average user.

As it is a free system, it is surely upto the developers to decide how
much  they want subject themselves to user feedback.

> However, if you wanted to pursue this, these questions would be
> questions for the respective projects (sympy and scipy).  For us, a 3rd
> party integrating both, namespaces is the natural way to access things
> in each package.

Surely I agree, but somehow sage has a larger user base and these
packages, that is why I posted here to see what the current status. I
also very much agree with last statements. Any way I am quite off
topic now and would not be writing more.

best,
Pallab
> Thanks,
>
> Jason

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