On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 11:48 AM, swulf<summitw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm new to Sage and this group.
>
> I have been doing some simple experimentation with integration in
> order to get up to speed. One thing I attempted was to try and
> calculate an integral, attempting to reproduce the problem described
> on this page:
>
> http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/52038.html
>
> Here is how I gave the problem to Sage (V4.1.1 under Windows):
>
> f=sin(x)
> g=f.diff(x)
> h=(sqrt(g^2+1))
> j=integral(h,x,0,2*pi)
> j
>
> Here is the response from Sage:
>
> integrate(sqrt(cos(x)^2 + 1), x, 0, 2*pi)
>
> This looks like Sage can't perform the integration, and it seems the
> sqrt is the problem, although it doesn't flag any sort of error. In
> the web page I give above, the problem is solved with MAPLE... so I am
> not sure why Sage has a problem with it?

Returning the integral as an integral is what Sage does when it is
unable to do the computation.  Currently, by default, Maxima behind
the scenes does all *symbolic* integration in Sage, and Maxima's
integration abilities are not as sophisticated as Maple/Mathematica.

You can compute the integral numerically, by the way:

sage: val, err = numerical_integral(sqrt(cos(x)^2 + 1), 0, 2*pi)
sage: val
7.6403955780554229
sage: err
3.742491026888652e-12

> I suspect I am missing something or doing something stupid. Can anyone
> enlighten me please?
>
> Thanks,
>
> swulf
>
> >
>



-- 
William Stein
Associate Professor of Mathematics
University of Washington
http://wstein.org

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