On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:01 AM, gemili <j...@gmx.de> wrote: > > Thank you for the fast answer. > > 1.) One of my computers is a five year old "Fujitsu-Siemens Livebook > C1110D" > 1a) I tried WindowsXP, SP3 --> SAGE 3.4.1 did not work. > 1b) I tried WindowsXP, SP2 --> SAGE 3.4.1 did not work. > 1c) I tried the "Sage LiveCD" (which has its own UNIX operation > system) on this computer and it also didn't work. Maybe it is a hint, > that the problem is independent from the Operating system (but it can > be also a problem with the LiveCD). > > 1d) Following is the result of cat /proc/cpuinfo for this computer: > processor: : 0 > vendor_id: GenuineIntel > cpu family: 6 > model: 9 > model name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1400Mhz > stepping: 5 > cpu Mhz: 1399.177 > cache size: 1024 kB > fdiv_bug: no > hlt_bug: no > f00f_bug: no > coma_bug: no > fpu: yes > fpu_exeption: yes > cupid level: 2 > wp: yes > flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat > clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 up > bogomips: 2803.98 > > 2.) Second computer is a Desktop with WindowsXP, SP3. > 2a) When starting SAGE 3.4.1, it will not work and I receive the error > message concerning the sse2 flag. (I don't receive this message with > the above mentioned Siemens Laptop, No 1.). The message is > "Warning! This Sage install was build on a machine that supports > instructions that are not available on this computer. Sage will > likely fail with Illegal Instruction errors! The following processor > flags were on the build machine > but are not on this vomputer: sse2 " > > 2b) Following is the result of this Desktop: > > processor: : 0 > vendor_id: AuthenticAMD > cpu family: 6 > model: 8 > model name: AMD Athlon (TM) XP2200+ > stepping: 1 > cpu Mhz: 1799.135 > cache size: 256 kB > fdiv_bug: no > hlt_bug: no > f00f_bug: no > coma_bug: no > fpu: yes > fpu_exeption: yes > cupid level: 1 > wp: yes > flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov > pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow up ts > bogomips: 3615.72 > > 3) The third computer is also a Desktop. SAGE 3.4.1 is running on this > computer under WindowsXP, Service Pack 2. > > 3a) Cpuinfo reports the following flages: "fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae > mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxse sse sse2 nx > up pni rng rng_en ace ace_en." > > > RESULT: > Computer No 1 has the sse2 flag, but doesn't run SAGE 3.4.1 (SAGE > 3.2.3 did run). Computer No. 2 doen't have the sse2 flag and doesn't > run SAGE 3.4.1. Computer No. 3 has the ss2 flag and runs SAGE 3.4.1. >
Computer no 2 should not be able to run Sage, so let's ignore that for now. Compute 1: doesn't run Sage Computer 3: runs Sage We have # computer 1 sage: a = "fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge cmov pat clflush acpi mmx fxse sse sse2 nx up pni rng rng_en ace ace_en." # computer 3 sage: b = "fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 up" sage: a = set(a.split()) sage: b = set(b.split()) # what (1) has the (3) doesn't: sage: ' '.join([x for x in a if x not in b]) 'fxse nx rng_en pae ace_en. rng pni ace' # what (3) has the (1) doesn't: sage: ' '.join([x for x in b if x not in a]) 'fxsr mca dts' This suggests that fxsr, mca, or dts is relevant. My build machine has all those flags, but your machine (1) doesn't. fxsr is: "FXSAVE/FXRSTOR. (The FXSAVE instruction writes the current state of the x87 FPU, MMX technology, Streaming SIMD Extensions, and Streaming SIMD Extensions 2 data, control, and status registers to the destination operand. The destination is a 512-byte memory location. FXRSTOR will restore the state saves)." dts is your digital thermal sensor, which is irrelevant. mca is "Machine Check Architecture." No clue. This is from http://blog.hbcom.info/archives/152/. Your testing thus suggests that fxsr is really important, and we should be explicitly checking for it and not allowing Sage to run if the user doesn't have it. Also, we should look to see what part(s) of sage actually use it. I've made a trac ticket for this: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/5998 > The result seams to be independent from SP2 or SP3. > > Maybe it would be a good idea to compile Sage without the sse2 flag > (whatever it is...) > > Hopefully it helps. > Gemili > > > > -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
