On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Robert Bradshaw
<rober...@math.washington.edu> wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2009, at 12:54 AM, William Stein wrote:
>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:45 AM, alia hamieh
>> <aliasham...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm trying to deal with following problem:
>>>
>>> G=DirichletGroup(75)
>>> chi = list(G)[8]
>>> I need to compute with expressions such as: chi(2)*sqrt(11)
>>> the problem is that we cannot do this multiplication because we have
>>> "incompatible" operands, the first belongs to the cyclotomic field
>>> of order
>>> 20 and the other one belongs to a symbolic ring.
>>> Is there a way to fix this problem?
>>>
>>> alia
>>
>> You can do the following.  It's awkward but it works:
>>
>> sage: G = DirichletGroup(75)
>> sage: chi = list(G)[8]
>> sage: K = G.base_ring()
>> sage: R.<x> = PolynomialRing(K)
>> sage: L.<alpha> = K.extension(x^2 - 11)
>> sage: chi(2) * alpha
>> zeta20^4*alpha
>>
>> Here alpha = sqrt(11).
>>
>> Someday Robert Bradshaw is likely to make your original
>> chi(2)*sqrt(11) work.  We'll see.
>
> This would require sqrt(11) to be a number field element rather than
> a symbolic expression. For many things I think that would be a good
> idea, but it has some drawbacks, like when trying to compute sum(sqrt
> (p) for p in primes(1000))

But couldn't doing chi(2) * sqrt(11) coerce chi(2) to the symbolic ring and give
the answer there?  I think that should make sense, because cyclotomic
fields are
now equipped with a fixed embedding into C.

William

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