On Jan 13, 2009, at 11:39 AM, ma...@mendelu.cz wrote:

> Many thanks, memory seems to be a big problem on my server (I did
> tests you suggested on my laptop and each worksheet is consumig a lot
> of memory). I have seen that sagenb.org has 2GB memory - like my PC.
> How many users wirk simultaneously on sagenb.org?
>
> * I think that I can set up my personal computer as second sage server
> for my class
>       Is it sufficient to move the ~/login/.sage directory to clone
> all the work  to the second server?
>
> * I will ask our webmaster to increase memory on my virtual server on
> Mondays :)
>       But it supprised me that sage is so memory demanding :(
>       The students were asked to calculate nothing more than few
> limits and draw some 2d graphs.

I think this is because Sage loads a lot more than your students are  
using by default. Periodically, William (or others) has gone through  
and audited the sage startup for speed, pruning unnecessary imports-- 
perhaps the same could be done with an eye towards memory usage. If  
you're graphing and plotting, each notebook probably started up a  
maxima process as well.

> * Is there any other possibility how to decrease the memory demand? I
> tried to open 17 notebooks with  notebook(ulimit="-v 10240") but this
> did not help. The demand for memory was the same as for notebook()
> command.

I would imagine a lot of Sage is in shared object libraries--these  
don't have to reside in memory for each individual process, do they?  
I wonder if something like pyprocessing could be used, which seems to  
effectively re-use the loaded libraries.

> I wonder how the others use sage in education. Do they have so big
> memory on their servers?
> Thank you very much.

I would imagine a couple of GB at least, but I personally don't have  
any experience. The summer REU programs that have used Sage here were  
on a computer with an atypically large amount of RAM, but that  
shouldn't be a necessity.

- Robert


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