2008/10/6 Thierry Dumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I would like to know if someone as used Sage with undergraduate
> students. My question is mainly a question about the material which
> would be necessary.
>
> We are currently building a project (this means: asking for money, doing
> a lot a bureaucracy and so on) on Sage in my University: the idea is to
> start the replacement of  the current commercial system (Maple) by Sage.
> Nowadays, students use Maple on a network of Windows machines.  We would
> like to make a large Sage server so that all the students use the web
> interface.
>
> I can add to Sage an identification on the ldap server (actually active
> directory) of the University, and Sage accounts will be  created
> automatically.
>
> The more difficult question for us is: which machine? One can expect to
> have about 200 students using Sage at the same time, with large

There is no way you can have 200 students all using exactly one
sage notebook server on the same port *at the same time* and
have it feel snappy still.   I've done classes with 30 people at once
and that worked OK -- the server I used was sage.math (16 1.8Ghz
opterons from 2005).  If you ran say 6 different servers, even on the
same hardware, at once, that would probably work fairly well.
Probably using two of the 8-core 32GB of RAM machines you list
below, with say three sage notebook servers on each, would work
reasonably well.

If you publish the relevant notebooks the students need, and
just redirect students from some master login page to one of those
six distinct servers, this could work pretty well.

> subgroups of students doing the same thing at the same time. Ok, as it
> is undergraduate students, they will not make very large computations...
> But what about the "scalability" of Sage, of the web server?

To emphasize again, I doubt it scales to more than 30 users all hammering
the server at once.

> We are currently looking at machines with 2x4 core processors, 32 gb of
> RAM, 2x450 Gb of disk (raid1). Larger machines exists, but are extremely
> expensive. We can ask for two machines like this.
>
> As anyone some experience in this domain?

sagenb.org obviously has a lot of usage.
I basically started it as a server from scratch
1 month ago, and over 750 people created
accounts on it during the last month.

 -- William

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