This is great, this is actually how I initially hoped it could be
done.

And yes - I am quite new to SAGE.

It's though still a bit messy, since when I in F2 request a
random_element() I will only get "1" or "0".

/David


On Sep 29, 9:12 pm, "Justin C. Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 29, 2008, at 10:51 AM, David Møller Hansen wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thank you for you answer Justin and I should also apologize for my
> > badly formulated question but you understood it correctly.
>
> > I just can't get SAGE to eat the line you write f=x^2+x+F1(1), it
> > complains with: TypeError: unsupported operand parent(s) for '+':
> > 'Symbolic Ring' and 'Finite Field in a of size 2^7'
>
> Any time you see 'Symbolic Ring', or something similar, in an error  
> message, you have run afoul of some short-cuts built into sage to  
> make things simple for those who are "new" to sage, or are just using  
> it as a quick and dirty calculator.
>
> The issue is that 'x' is predeclared as a symbolic calculus variable,  
> and you want it to be an indeterminate for use in a polynomial ring.
>
> My reply earlier finessed the problem by not mentioning that I  
> actually had this between defining F1 and defining f:
>
> sage: P1.<x>=PolynomialRing(F1)
>
> When you do this, your polynomial will actually be an element in F1
> [x], and not some strange symbolic thing that doesn't play well with  
> others :-}
>
> In short, the correct way to do what I showed earlier is
>
> sage: F1.<a> = GF(2^7)
> sage: P1.<x>=PolynomialRing(F1)
> sage: f=x^2+x+F1(1)
> sage: F2=F1.extension(f,'u')
> sage: F2
> Univariate Quotient Polynomial Ring in u over Finite Field in a of
> size 2^7 with modulus u^2 + u + 1
> sage: a in F2
> True
>
> (which I just verified in a fresh run of sage 3.1.1).
>
> Sorry for the confusion.
>
> Justin
>
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