> @Martin Albrecht:
> - Is there a reasonable way to fix this in the interface?

Hi, the 'trivial' way to fix it, is to implement a Python function for 
SinguleElement called invariant_ring which calls the Singular function, 
parses the output and returns a tuple. If you call A.invariant_ring the 
Singular function is only called directly if there is no Python function with 
the same name. 

A better - and I guess doable - approach is to track down why it fails and fix 
it. 

> - If not: What could we do on the side of Singular to make the return
> of a tuple (like return(P,S,IS)) comprehensible for the interface? I
> guess "return(list(P,S,IS))" would work, but i'm not sure if this
> change of syntax wouldn't have nasty consequences for existing
> applications.
>
> There is a very clumsy way to pull the output of invariant_ring into
> sage:
> First, define A and R as above. Then say
>   singular.eval('matrix P,S,IS=invariant_ring(%s)'%(A.name()))
>   P=singular('P')
>   S=singular('S')
>   IS=singular('IS')
>
> But definitely i do think the correct syntax should be
> P,S,IS=A.invariant_ring()

and this is definitely possible either by doing what you are doing above 
within a Python wrapper function or by fixing that issue.

> Now, another question on the Singular interface:
> In Singular, doing
>  matrix P,S,IS = invariant_ring(A,1);
> would make Singular to additionally print information about the
> progress of computations (which, in big examples, might be nice to
> have).
>
> However, when i use the Singular interface, i can not see such
> informations. Where are they gone?

The information is printed but ignored because pexpect expects 
Singular 'output' and ignores the rest. I am no pexpect expert so I don't 
know how to fix it. It would very very useful though. Anyone else has any 
idea?

Martin

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