On Tuesday 09 October 2007 13:05, Simon King wrote:
> Michael wrote:
> > > When i take a 4x4 matrix over GF(7) with n=1000001, test function 1
> > > needs 92.50 s CPU time, but test function 2 only needs 1.49 s CPU
> > > time!
> > > Hence, in that case, MeatAxe (actually a very old version!!) appears
> > > to be faster than Sage built with Atlas, by a factor of >60!
>
> <snip>
>
> > Sage has so far only optimized the large case, but 2.8.6 (out in a day or
> > so) should contain a patch that improves the small case also.
>
> In fact, the new version is faster -- but not much. 10^6
> multiplications of some 4x4 matrix over GF(7) took about 59 seconds of
> CPU time using Sage matrices (disclaimer: It is not clear to me if
> Sage 2.8.6 has found my ATLAS BLAS).

The optimizations I did I only applied to dense matrices with integer or 
rational coefficients.  I'd imagine that the same thing needs to be done with 
matrices over a finite field.  Robert's optimization of the coercion is 
probably much more general than mine and applies to matrices with any type of 
entry -- this is why you saw an improvement.  My improvement was to 
streamline the creation of new matrix spaces to hold the result (that is, you 
don't have to create a new matrix space if the matrices are square.)

> Meanwhile i learned how to turn MeatAxe matrices into an extension
> type 'MTX' for Sage. Apparently there is some overhead in my
> implementation (and some functionality is still missing), but 10^6
> multiplications of the same 4x4 matrix over GF(7) only took 4.3
> seconds of CPU time using the MTX extension type.

Hmm, that's a pretty big improvement over the SAGE time above.  I suspect that 
we will have to work a lot harder than either of our optimizations have so 
far.

--
Joel

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