On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Volker Braun <vbraun.n...@gmail.com> wrote: > Clearly they are in the business of reinventing the wheel ever year, with
Just curious -- who is "they"? > each generation of students. Coincidentally, I read something today that > resonated with me on that issue: > "Real Software Engineering is still in the future. There is nothing in > current SE that is like the construction of the Empire State building in > less than a year by less than 3000 people: they used powerful ideas and > power tools that we don't yet have in software development. If software does > "engineering" at all, it is too often at the same level as the ancient > Egyptians before the invention of the arch (literally before the making of > arches: architecture), who made large structures with hundreds of thousands > of slaves toiling for decades to pile stone upon stone: they used weak ideas > and weak tools, pretty much like most software development today." > > From: Is "Software Engineering" an Oxymoron? By Alan Kay > http://web.archive.org/web/20030407181600/www.opencroquet.org/downloads/Croquet0.1.pdf > Indeed. From personal experience, construction projects are totally completely different than software engineering. I was recently involved in a slightly nontrivial construction project (where I did probably the second most work) to build the biggest skateboard ramp in the northwest... and thought a lot about how that compares to building sage. -- William > > On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 7:39:17 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: >> >> Seems relevant and possibly related to e.g. SMC or sagenb - we have >> already had many discussions of this type in some of the education circles >> about "homework with Sage". >> >> http://www.wired.com/2015/02/university-bans-github-homework-changes-mind/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-edu" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to sage-edu@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- William (http://wstein.org) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-edu" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-edu@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.