On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Volker Braun <vbraun.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Clearly they are in the business of reinventing the wheel ever year, with

Just curious -- who is "they"?

> each generation of students. Coincidentally, I read something today that
> resonated with me on that issue:

> "Real Software Engineering is still in the future. There is nothing in
> current SE that is like the construction of the Empire State building in
> less than a year by less than 3000 people: they used powerful ideas and
> power tools that we don't yet have in software development. If software does
> "engineering" at all, it is too often at the same level as the ancient
> Egyptians before the invention of the arch (literally before the making of
> arches: architecture), who made large structures with hundreds of thousands
> of slaves toiling for decades to pile stone upon stone: they used weak ideas
> and weak tools, pretty much like most software development today."
>
> From: Is "Software Engineering" an Oxymoron? By Alan Kay
> http://web.archive.org/web/20030407181600/www.opencroquet.org/downloads/Croquet0.1.pdf
>

Indeed.  From personal experience, construction projects are totally
completely different than software engineering.  I was recently involved in
a slightly nontrivial construction project (where I did probably the second most
work) to build the biggest skateboard ramp in the northwest... and thought
a lot about how that compares to building sage.

 -- William

>
> On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 7:39:17 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote:
>>
>> Seems relevant and possibly related to e.g. SMC or sagenb - we have
>> already had many discussions of this type in some of the education circles
>> about "homework with Sage".
>>
>> http://www.wired.com/2015/02/university-bans-github-homework-changes-mind/
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