Le vendredi 13 décembre 2019 14:12:01 UTC+1, E. Madison Bray a écrit :
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 2:05 PM Emmanuel Charpentier 
> <emanuel.c...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > 
> > While we are already late in the Sage 9 release cycle, Trac#28877, which 
> is a (routine) upgrade of R to the current release, may be of benefit. 
> > For non-R-users : using the latest released R is almost a sine qua non 
> to get help from the R-help mailing list... 
>
> I will have a look at it.  FWIW while I still think it's good and 
> right to distribute R with Sage, I think serious users of R are not 
> installing Sage to get R so I don't think we should be in the business 
> of worrying about what is sine qua non in the R community to get help 
> from the rest of their community. 
>

I initially thought that getting people to "just install Sage" to get a 
consistent and interoperable set of modeling-related software was a clean 
way to get rid of the complexity of available software set maintainance.

But the current state of Sage distribution makes this a bit of a dream. 
Currently, the best way to install Sage is to compile it from source : 
definitely not an "end-user" task... It's even worse on Windows, where Sage 
isn't even a "first class citizen", notwithstanding the Herculean efforts 
of one E. Madison Bray (more on this in a little while on This issue 
<https://github.com/sagemath/sage-windows/issues/35>). 

Do you think that it is possible to keep the R *interface* standard while R 
being *optional*, in a way similar to  Mathematica, Magma and Maple ? It 
might require a bit more work, R being updated at least twice annually, 
while Mathematica's release are at multi-years intervals...
 

> But given that it's just a bug fix release I can't imagine there's a 
> problem... 
>

Famous last words...

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