Hi, On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 06:33:34PM -0400, David Joyner wrote: > On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 6:29 PM David Guichard <david.guich...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > When is a linear system consistent? > > > > This isn't helpful: > > > > a,b,c=var('a b c') > > A=matrix([[-4,5,9,a],[1, -2, 1, b],[-2,4,-2,c]]) > > A.echelon_form() > > A.rref() > > > > [ 1 0 -23/3 0] > > [ 0 1 -13/3 0] > > [ 0 0 0 1] > > > > [ 1 0 -23/3 0] > > [ 0 1 -13/3 0] > > [ 0 0 0 1] > > > > > > But this works, so I know how to get what I want: > > > > R.<a,b,c>=QQ[] > > A=matrix(R,[[-4,5,9,a],[1, -2, 1, b],[-2,4,-2,c]]) > > A.echelon_form() > > > > [ 1 0 -23/3 -2/3*a - 5/3*b] > > [ 0 1 -13/3 -1/3*a - 4/3*b] > > [ 0 0 0 2*b + c] > > > > So [a,b,c] is in the span of the columns iff 2b+c==0. > > > > Somewhat oddly, rref doesn't work here: > > > > A.rref() > > > > [ 1 0 -23/3 0] > > [ 0 1 -13/3 0] > > [ 0 0 0 1] > > > > > This is because the CAS used assumes 2*b + c is non-zero. > I would call it an "unfortunate feature", except that it (this "feature") > gives teachers of linear algebra examples for tests and quizzes that > can't be correctly solved using a CAS, and have to be solved by hand.
I would say that there is a bug in the 'default' algorithm. Note that changing the algorithm leads to: sage: A.echelon_form(algorithm='partial_pivoting') [ 1 0 -23/3 -2/3*a + 5/6*c] [ 0 1 -13/3 -1/3*a + 2/3*c] [ 0 0 0 b + 1/2*c] Ciao, Thierry > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "sage-devel" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/3db327ca-9826-4fc8-92b1-b14aa80dfe82%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/3db327ca-9826-4fc8-92b1-b14aa80dfe82%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > > . > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAEQuuAX6p-Tn8uTsYrW_F7PR_gbtxuqz0rV4AJs_PB%2B4CuqCiA%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/20190906081945.odbyxdrbhymoxmmd%40metelu.net.