Dear all,

Short answer: this poll is not legitimate

Long answer: Saying that the rendering on nbviewer.jupyter.org
or mybinder.org is broken because of "online=False" is a
shortcut in any real explanation of the problem (even though
setting "online=True" makes it work). A vote without any detailed
explanation of the problem makes no sense to me.

Vincent

PS: I also disapprove any automatic internet connection without
my explicit consent. But I feel like this is secondary here.

Le 11/02/2019 à 21:02, Thierry a écrit :
Hi,

Strong -1 !

- by making online=True the default, we harm the privacy of users, and
   we do not even let them the possibility to accept it first. I always
   feel betrayed by software that go online without my permission.

- mybinder or nbviewer are not the primary target for Sage (and by far
   not the most used way to use Sage), so this should not set defaults,
   especially regarding the previous point.

Isn't there a way to have a dedicated OnlineKernel inheriting from
SageKernel that would set this option to True (or similar idea, i am not
used to jupyter internals) ? I mean, Sage already differs from the
command line and the notebook (e.g. jmol vs jsmol), we could do the same
for mybinder and friends.

Ciao,
THierry


On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 08:35:23AM +1300, François Bissey wrote:
I will formally vote for “True”.

However I think the default should be "use online if available" and fall back 
if not.
But that implies writing new code to check online availability.

François

On 12/02/2019, at 06:31, Eric Gourgoulhon <egourgoul...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

As pointed out in the Free Computational Mathematics conference today, the default value 
of the "online" option of the threejs 3d viewer is False. This allows for the 
rendering without any internet connection, but it has the serious drawback to prevent 
rendering with nbviewer.jupyter.org or mybinder.org, as this example shows:
https://nbviewer.jupyter.org/github/egourgoulhon/SageMathTest/blob/master/Worksheets/threejs_online.ipynb

This poll is about reversing things, i.e. making online=True the default. In 
particular, this will ease the sharing of notebooks via mybinder.org.

Please vote.

Eric.




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