On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 2:38 PM E. Madison Bray <erik.m.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 11:28 AM Tobias Hansen <than...@debian.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 1/5/19 1:18 PM, Thierry wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > could Debian maintainers please explicitely tell us on the sage-devel
> > > mailing-list what should be done soon so that 8.6 could enter forthcoming
> > > buster release with recent dependencies (gap 4.10, etc) ? Also, what are
> > > the deadlines ?
> > >
> > > In particular, i noticed that networkx in buster will be version 2.2 [1],
> > > so should #26326 be set as blocker ?
> > >
> > > I noticed that sagemath disapeared from testing [2], is there a way we
> > > could help fixing that with 8.6 ?
> > >
> > > Ciao,
> > > Thierry
> > >
> > > [1] https://packages.debian.org/buster/python-networkx
> > > [2] 
> > > https://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=sagemath&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
> > >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think the main bottleneck at the moment is manpower for working directly 
> > on the sagemath package. I'm on vacation until January 13. Right now the 
> > sagemath 8.4 (with patched in support for gap 4.10 and networkx 2.2 etc) 
> > builds in Debian unstable and should be on the way to migrate to testing. 
> > [1] Since it was built with numpy 1.16 it can only migrate to testing when 
> > that migrates. Since I'm short on time I could just make the package build, 
> > but did not have much time to look at the doctests that are still failing. 
> > See [2] for an overview and links to the build logs. If someone could check 
> > for important failures (and fixes), that would be appreciated. If people 
> > could test the package and report bugs that would be helpful too.
> >
> > The freeze is described in [3]. The transition freeze on January 12 does 
> > probably not affect us much, but the soft freeze on February 12 means that 
> > sagemath must be in testing before that date. Preferably sagemath 8.6. I 
> > already updated the package to 8.6.beta1 in git and could upload 8.6.* to 
> > Debian experimental soon to make build logs available.
> >
> > Directly on the sage side I think the only thing you can do to help is to 
> > release 8.6 in time (maybe around January 17?) so that it can be uploaded 
> > to unstable soon and migrate to Debian testing before the soft freeze on 
> > February 12. Testing migration is not very predictable. New bug reports or 
> > uploads of other packages can cause unexpected dalays.
>
> Could somebody help explain exactly what the difference is between the
> "transition freeze" and the "soft freeze"?  I was under the impression
> that we were working more up against the transition freeze on January
> 12.  Is the idea there just to not make any major package version
> changes that break other packages?  For Sage that's relatively easy
> since it's near the bottom of the dependency tree.  8.6.rc0 is out
> now, so 8.6 should be out in time for that.
>
> I'm building Sage on Debian unstable now and will look into some of
> the remaining doctest failures in the meantime.

Sage 8.6 will also require an update of cysignals to 1.8.1.  Is that
in the works?  How would I ago about updating that package?

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