Le samedi 8 décembre 2018 23:44:32 UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik a écrit :
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> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 5:03 PM parisse <bernard...@ujf-grenoble.fr 
> <javascript:>> wrote: 
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> >  and even if I was, I don't want to depend from google or any company 
> for something like that (the risk of IP problems is much too high 
>
> IP problems while working with open source software? Really? 
>

Yes, Giac is dual-licensed. For example the HP Prime calculator is using 
Giac as CAS. And I'm almost certain that google will some day want to 
replace calculators in the education sector.

 > and anyway I don't like the idea that private company should 
> replace public support for research). Either I can have ssh access to 
> some university linux server somewhere 
>
> The reality is that many universities already moved to renting servers 
> in datacenters, and this will become more and more prevalent. There 
> are universities in UK that do not have any servers at all, and run CS 
> education programs more or less fully in the cloud. 
> Just a couple of days ago I spoke to someone from U. of Portsmouth, 
> where every CS major students gets issued a linux VM at the beginning 
> of their study, and do most of their graded coursework there (at a 
> cost for the university for under 7 euro per student per year). 
>
>
If you pay for a service, that's different. I don't like the idea to be 
dependent on the net and big datacenter but it's certainly possible to work 
on partially commercial projects without fearing anything on IP (but you 
must probably  check the contract to be sure).

> or this will be delayed until I buy myself a laptop with more than 2 
> (reals) threads. 
>
> whereas you could run your tests on a 100-core VM, for free... 
>

So what? My current configuration is well adapted to Xcas and Geogebra user 
basis. I never saw big interest in the computer algebra and sage community 
in Giac : Opendreamkit has ignored Giac and spent part of its ressources to 
implement efficient polynomial algorithms that were already implemented in 
Giac, my Groebner basis code is not new code, it's there since more than a 
couple of years now.  
If I have an opportunity to test on a University server I'll take it, but I 
will not fight for that. If I don't have the opportunity, then I'll try on 
the next laptop I will buy when the current one will have to be replaced. 
There is no urgency.
Maybe the situation will change in the future, then I may reconsider my 
priorities.

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