On Sun, 2 Sep 2018, 17:53 Simon King, <simon.k...@uni-jena.de> wrote:

> Hi Dima,
>
> On 2018-09-02, Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It would be good to submit a Singular bug report with an example at
> > https://github.com/Singular/Sources
>
> I guess I should rather file it in the Singular trac. Well, I'll wait to
> see
> if a post in the Singular forum helps :-)
>

my experience is that their trac tickets more or less get transferred to
github, before anything happens. So github is just faster.


> > It's silly to see an overflow in such a case.
>
> Yes and no. A simple failing example is
>   > ring R = 0,(x(1..35)),dp;
>   > hilb(maxideal(1),1);
>   ? int overflow in hilb 1
>   ? error occurred in or before STDIN line 31:
>         `hilb(maxideal(1),1);`
>
> > Do you understand where exactly you are hitting intvec limitations:
> > https://www.singular.uni-kl.de/Manual/4-0-3/sing_455.htm#SEC494
>
> In the above example, the first Hilbert series *would* be
> -t^35 + 35*t^34 - 595*t^33 + 6545*t^32 - 52360*t^31 + 324632*t^30 -
> 1623160*t^29 + 6724520*t^28 - 23535820*t^27 + 70607460*t^26 -
> 183579396*t^25 + 417225900*t^24 - 834451800*t^23 + 1476337800*t^22 -
> 2319959400*t^21 + 3247943160*t^20 - 4059928950*t^19 + 4537567650*t^18 -
> 4537567650*t^17 + 4059928950*t^16 - 3247943160*t^15 + 2319959400*t^14 -
> 1476337800*t^13 + 834451800*t^12 - 417225900*t^11 + 183579396*t^10 -
> 70607460*t^9 + 23535820*t^8 - 6724520*t^7 + 1623160*t^6 - 324632*t^5 +
> 52360*t^4 - 6545*t^3 + 595*t^2 - 35*t + 1
>
> And since at some of the coefficients simply exceed the permitted range
> (the maximal int is 2147483647), Singular won't be able to compute it --
> unless the Singular devs decide to use bigint vectors (don't exist in
> Singular yet) or another suitable data format.
>

32-bit intvec (instead of 64-bit vectors) is pointless to use on 64-bit
systems, it saves no memory or CPU cycles.
And this will go far enough in your case, I gather...


> > yep, frobby is not maintained, too...
>
> Ouch.
>
> > CoCoAlib is essentially a two-person project.
> > I know John Abbott, one of the two, reasonably well, could we get him
> > involved?
>
> Worth trying. I don't know how John and Anna stand on Sage.
>
> > The core of M2 is essentially a two-person project. They are very
> > approachable, but often busy. Try their github...
> > (I have mixed experience with building M2. IMHO they make it harder by
> not
> > using automake...)
>
> I *did* use their github, and they *do* use automake - in a strange way.
>

they use autoconf, but no automake, I think.

The first step was to run "make" -- which resulted in invoking autotools!
>
> The second step was to run "./configure". It failed, until I deleted the
> MAKE environment variable.
>
> The third step was to run "make" again, which now used another makefile
> than the first "make".
>
> The next step was to deal with the dependencies that are forgotten to be
> mentioned in the INSTALL file, and try "make" again.
>
> The last step was to observe strange errors related with openblas.
>
> Best regards,
> Simon
>
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