Le vendredi 1 juin 2018 16:52:27 UTC+2, William a écrit :
[ Snip... ] > E.g., there should be a much more > prominent link to Gregory Bard's book "Sage for undergrads", and for > the French (and soon English) book that Paul Z. started -- since many, > many potential users of Sage are lost without those. > Seconded. And I must add that the "Constructions" manual <http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/constructions/index.html> (which might benefit from some serious update and revamping) is also an underestimated and under-advertised resource when one is trying to get the "geist" of Sage... BTW, both our docs and tutorials and the above-mentioned books might also benefit of a few pointers to this under-ued resource. But further, linking to dependencies should be done much more, but in > a way that provides clear value to users: > - being able to better know what Sage is - being able to better know what is in Sage > - being able to read the original upstreams docs and source code more > easily > - knowing which upstreams devs to contact for *support*, to ask for > features, to contribute work, and to thank. > The "normal" way to contact devs should be to use the mailing lists, the ask.sagemath.org site and (last but not least) the bug reporting system. Here, I have to repeat that "normal" users (i. e. non-developers) should be able to file a ticket (or, at least, a ticket proposal) against Sage : reporting an (apparent) bug is a great way to contribute to software, by either exposing an hitherto unreported problem or exposing an unclear or unsufficient documentation... > - being able to properly acknowledge what they are using > > In any case, I hope whoever works on this project thinks about how > what they do will be used by users to make their experience with Sage > better overall, and benefit the community. > > William > > > The home page could randomly rotate the names of > > external dependencies that are listed on the main page so they all get > equal > > exposure. It could even say, "Here is a selection updated randomly: > ....... > > but there are many _more_". (My apologies if this is already the case, > but > > after a number of refreshes, the list doesn't appear to change, > presently.) > > > > Obviously, the intention of this suggestion is to bring more prominent > > credit to authors of those other packages, which they deserve. As such, > I'd > > prefer if we could avoid discussions to justify listing only certain > > packages on the main page (other than technical considerations, such as > > limited space on the main page), as this would have the opposite of the > > intended effect, which is to prominently recognize their work, which is > > well-deserved. > > > > I'm aware there may be other technical considerations, such as static vs > > dynamic nature of the html, SEO optimisation considerations related to > > regular changes to the page, etc. I guess those need to be considered. > But I > > also believe this is a very important social issue, or I wouldn't raise > it. > > > > (The alternative, of course, would be to remove the short list on the > main > > page and only have the very long list on the "and many more" page.) > > > > Sorry it's taken me so long to get around to mentioning this, after it > had > > been repeatedly brought to my attention by various people over the > years. > > > > Bill. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "sage-devel" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > > email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > > To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:>. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > William (http://wstein.org) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
