Dear Thierry,

Le lundi 21 novembre 2016 17:09:41 UTC+1, Thierry (sage-googlesucks@xxx) a 
écrit :
>
> Hi, 
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 03:21:31AM -0800, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: 
> > Dear list, 
> > 
> > The fact that we can't ship openSSL (see uncountable theads in 
> sage-devel 
> > and others) seems to pose more and more difficulties. See for example 
> this 
> > thread <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sage-support/rDV9uGT2ViM> 
>
> > on sage-support, and especially Dima's answer 
> > <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-support/rDV9uGT2ViM/GuKDbhSKAwAJ>, 
> as 
> > well as this annoying ticket <https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21767>, 
> > discussed in this saga 
> > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sage-devel/QaBdHSNJuKg> . 
>
>
> Note that Dima's answer is somehow misleading, since downloading openssl 
> from the Sage mirrors does not require SSL. 
>
> Hence the following is still possible, without having openssl-dev as a 
> system prerequisite: 
>
> - check that openssl-dev (or equivalent) is installed system-wide 
> - if not: 
>   - warn the user and suggest/recommend her to install it 
>   - as an alternative, propose to download and install openssl from the 
>     Sage mirrors via http 
>

I am not sure we can (pseudo-)legally do that.

Advices ?
 

> - build Sage 
>
> Ciao, 
> Thierry 
>
>
>
> > Could'nt we add OpenSSL as a prerequisite to Sage, and it"s development 
> > files as a prerequisite to building Sage ? This would require of the 
> user 
> > to install OpenSSL systemwide, thus making it "system software" and 
> > satisfying the strange licensing requirements that bother us. 
> > 
> > One could even do that indirectly, by requiring a systemwide libcurl 
> > supporting https : this would de facto enforce the systemwide 
> installation 
> > of OpenSSL (or a reasonable facsimile). That's what I was trying to do 
> in this 
> > proposal <https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21767#comment:41>... (IIRC, 
> the 
> > problem with libcurl is also bound to OpenSSL : libcurl itself is not a 
> > problem. But I'll have to check : if this is true, we can require 
> OpenSSL 
> > and ship libcurl which will then compile cleanly). 
> > 
> > Comments ? Especially wrt Macs, which seem to be further encumbered by 
> > Apple's dirty tricks... 
> > 
> > Should we have a vote ? 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Emmanuel Charpentier 
> > 
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