> Nobody is suggesting deprecating the potential to use Sage+R. 
>>
>
> That's replacing "It's there" by "It can be done". Not the same thing... 
> unless you're a theologian or a politician.
>
>
Thank you.
 

>
> A third point, distinct from the previous two, is that William deems the 
> current pexpect interface to be insufficient. Having suffered with it, I 
> tend to concur. But I think that the pexpect() interface is *still* useful.
>
>>
>>
Correct.
 

>
>>  
>
>>  I've never once heard of anybody actually trying to use 
>> Sage + R yet.
>
>
> Can you hear me now ?
>  
>

I definitely have, and I have heard from those who do.  Don't ask me for a 
detailed list.  But:
https://ask.sagemath.org/question/9851/passing-array-from-sage-to-r-and-back-again/
https://ask.sagemath.org/question/8229/inter-mixing-sage-and-r/
https://ask.sagemath.org/question/8375/converting-r-variables-to-sage/

>
> It adds a lot : availability of tools much better at expressing 
> *structures* than anything available on the R side (thonk graph theory, 
> symbolic computation, etc...). That's no as popular among applied 
> statisticians as computing "tests p-values" (the present), but remains the 
> core problem of statistics ("given some data, what is the "right" structure 
> that accounts for them ? "., i. e. the future...).
>
>>
>>

Right, R is so much more than stats.  It's just ... everything you every 
wanted for processing all sorts of numerical data.  Often the only 
open-source way to deal with a lot of stuff is via some random R package. 
 And those things then would far easier be processed in R and sent back to 
Sage.   I am very excited about (someday) learning how to use pandas 
better, as a Python-native setup, but for practical purposes there is just 
too much stuff available with R for many people to just abandon it.
+++
Anyway, count this as a vote for at the very least maintaining the current 
R interface for continued compatibility for a longer period than the usual 
deprecation, though I think that changing that would really change what was 
available in Sage, for the poorer.  If the rpy2 roadblocks can be overcome, 
obviously so much the better.

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