> Nobody is suggesting deprecating the potential to use Sage+R. >> > > That's replacing "It's there" by "It can be done". Not the same thing... > unless you're a theologian or a politician. > > Thank you.
> > A third point, distinct from the previous two, is that William deems the > current pexpect interface to be insufficient. Having suffered with it, I > tend to concur. But I think that the pexpect() interface is *still* useful. > >> >> Correct. > >> > >> I've never once heard of anybody actually trying to use >> Sage + R yet. > > > Can you hear me now ? > > I definitely have, and I have heard from those who do. Don't ask me for a detailed list. But: https://ask.sagemath.org/question/9851/passing-array-from-sage-to-r-and-back-again/ https://ask.sagemath.org/question/8229/inter-mixing-sage-and-r/ https://ask.sagemath.org/question/8375/converting-r-variables-to-sage/ > > It adds a lot : availability of tools much better at expressing > *structures* than anything available on the R side (thonk graph theory, > symbolic computation, etc...). That's no as popular among applied > statisticians as computing "tests p-values" (the present), but remains the > core problem of statistics ("given some data, what is the "right" structure > that accounts for them ? "., i. e. the future...). > >> >> Right, R is so much more than stats. It's just ... everything you every wanted for processing all sorts of numerical data. Often the only open-source way to deal with a lot of stuff is via some random R package. And those things then would far easier be processed in R and sent back to Sage. I am very excited about (someday) learning how to use pandas better, as a Python-native setup, but for practical purposes there is just too much stuff available with R for many people to just abandon it. +++ Anyway, count this as a vote for at the very least maintaining the current R interface for continued compatibility for a longer period than the usual deprecation, though I think that changing that would really change what was available in Sage, for the poorer. If the rpy2 roadblocks can be overcome, obviously so much the better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.