On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 at 2:58:44 PM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote:
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> On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 at 2:22:45 PM UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori 
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>> On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 at 2:08:25 PM UTC+2, Emmanuel Charpentier 
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>>> Le mercredi 26 octobre 2016 13:40:14 UTC+2, Jean-Pierre Flori a écrit :
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>>>> It would be great to let the user choose when to use system libraries 
>>>> instead of building our own, whether its curl or gmp.
>>>> A problem coming to my mind to have a simple --with-curl=[system|build] 
>>>> working.
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>>> That means, if I follow you, to have to patch each and every (candidate) 
>>> package potentially using curl in order to consider this flag. Not exactly 
>>> low-maintainance... 
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>> What do we gain ?
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>> I don't get you.
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>> The current situation is that for every package built by Sage depending 
>> on any other package built by Sage, we have to tell them to look into 
>> $SAGE_LOCAL for including headers and linking to libraries.
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>> I suggest to add a --with-curl=... or --with-systemwide-pkgs=... option 
>> to the toplevel configure of "Sage the distribution" to tell "Sage the 
>> distribution" not to build its own curl but to rely on a system wide one.
>> But then we have to tell each package built by "Sage the distribution" to 
>> look for its dependencies either in $SAGE_LOCAL (which is basically always 
>> the case at the moment) or in standard system-wide paths (hopefully we 
>> won't support non standard paths in the near future).
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>> So we indeed need to modify the configure options in each spkg-install 
>> scripts of pkgs depending on curl to have "--with-curl=`pkgconfig 
>> --blablbabla`" or anything sensible which would tell it to either look into 
>> $SAGE_LOCAL or in default paths.
>> The only other way to do this without passing stuff to configure scripts 
>> of each package is playing with LDFLAGS and CFLAGS and this has 
>> unfortunately less chances of success than using configure scripts options, 
>> good luck with that.
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>>> Furthermore, that introduce the possibility of having *simultaneously* 
>>> some packages using  our version of curl and others using system's version. 
>>> Ouch...
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>>> Yes maybe.
>> I can surely make it so that Sage gets both ATLAS and openblas installed 
>> if I really want to and link to both of them in a random way. 
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>> A more consistent way would be to pass a flag to curl's installation 
>>> script telling it to fake installation or to force build. That is possible, 
>>> but, again, not very consistent with the primitive idea of enforcing some 
>>> consistency.
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>> No it does not solve the issue of packages having to link to libcurl. 
>> Unless you want to play with LDFLAGS and C[...]FLAGS rather than passing 
>> options to configure scripts of these packages.
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> In fact you still have to deal with LDFLAGS and CPPFLAGS.
> At least R only looks in what they define and you cannot give anything 
> through a --with-curl= option.
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> By the way it seems that Sage modifies by default LDFLAGS globally to 
> include $SAGE_LOCAL/lib but not CPPFLAGS. 
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Maybe we can use config.site as well:
https://www.gnu.org/software/automake/manual/html_node/config_002esite.html 

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