On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 3:30 AM, Volker Braun <vbraun.n...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think this idea of installing stuff globally (either system-wide or in > ~/.local) is outdated. Really its always better to make a venv if you need > some sort of specialist package. Its just an all-around better workflow. And > Sage-the-distribution really is like a big venv. > > I'd rather spend 5 seconds installing my favorite package into Sage than an > hour debugging what in ~/.local makes Sage crash. > > And there are a lot of potential conflicts; for startes if you compile Sage > with SAGE_DEBUG=yes then the Python ABI will be incompatible with any > extension modules in ~/.local > > If anything I would document that you can opt-in to the account-wide > packages by running "PYTHONUSERBASE=~/.local sage"
Python itself could make those same arguments, as one can install multiple copies of Python in different ways on a single computer. I wish more people were interested in integrating Sage with the wider Python ecosystem and community... William > > > > > > > > > On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 5:38:58 PM UTC+2, William wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I personally disagree with trying to make Sage's python and the >> general environment be as isolated as possibly from each other. We >> should try to interoperate with the greater Python world as much as >> possible, not change things to discourage that. If you want total >> isolation, use Docker, don't mess with environment variables like >> this... >> >> I realize that this might just get closed due to philosophical >> differences. How about just document PYTHONUSERBASE in our FAQ or >> something (like it is in python) and trust users to have a clue? >> >> I've made https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21456 about this. However, >> the authors of the new code in Sage that sets PYTHONUSERBASE if it >> isn't set, might have a very different opinion, and for a good reason. >> Thoughts? >> >> -- William >> >> >> -- >> William (http://wstein.org) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- William (http://wstein.org) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
