On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 6:33 PM, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 9:21 AM, leif <not.rea...@online.de> wrote:
>>> OS bashing will not be tolerated.
>>
>> But company bashing will... ;-)
>>
>> Microsoft used to have a POSIX layer also; no idea what happened to that
>> (and how usable it actually was/is).
>>
>> But it never made it into mainstream Windows AFAIK.
>
> In the interest of balance, last week Microsoft donated USD $5K to
> support the Women in Sage Days conferences.

My point exactly :)

> This new Ubuntu in Windows initiative is really fantastic.   I'm glad
> they (evidently) now support fork and pseudotty's -- they didn't when
> somebody tried a few months ago, and I heard that this was their top
> priority.

Yes. The fork support especially is going to be a big win--fork on
Cygwin is a big ol' mess especially due to DLL rebasing.

> Regarding the above discussion about speed, what combination of
> OS/Virtualization/Emulations/Native/etc. is actually fastest is not
> something that can be determined by "pure thought", since there are
> two additional factors (which I saw a lot in work of Bill Hart, Jason
> Moxham and Brian Gladman on MPIR and FLINT):
>
>   1. Performance is multidimensional.   It can easily be that f(X) is
> faster in one setting, whereas g(X) is slower.  Or even that the
> relative speed of f depends on X.
>
>   2. Performance depends enormously on how much work has gone into
> optimizing libraries for certain platforms.  E.g., once when I tested
> using MPIR in Linux via VirtualBox on Windows, it was much faster than
> just using MPIR natively built using MSVC (no claims about today).
> Why?  Much more effort had gone into optimizing MPIR on Linux than on
> native Windows.

Yes--this is why I hesitate to assume one way or the other.

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