On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:42 PM, VulK <etn45...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am not proposing this as our final solution since, as you point out, it is > a suboptimal hack on many respects; I am just saying that we can use this > today (actually from Aug 2nd) to bring anyone running windows 10 on the sage > bandwagon with minimal effort on our side. If I am not mistaken Bash should > be available to anyone with Windows 10 Anniversary Update on that date not > just developers. > > Clearly performance are not going to be good, native applications are the way > to go for this; on the other hand I am not sure it is much (or at all?) > slower than a virtual machine setup.
Yes, absolutely agreed it is (soon to be) the best available stop-gap measure :) > * Erik Bray <erik.m.b...@gmail.com> [2016-07-26 13:25:31]: > >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:19 AM, VulK <etn45...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hi All, >> > Some time ago I briefly played with Bash on Ubuntu on Windows with some >> > limited success. The situation dramatically improved recently. I would risk >> > saying that our nightmares to support windows are nearly over. >> > >> > >> > Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.14393] >> > (c) 2016 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. >> > >> > C:\Users\VulK>bash >> > root@DESKTOP-U13FH0M:/mnt/c/Users/VulK# uname -a >> > Linux DESKTOP-U13FH0M 3.4.0+ #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 1 17:06:05 CST >> > 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux >> > root@DESKTOP-U13FH0M:~# apt-add-repository -y ppa:aims/sagemath >> > root@DESKTOP-U13FH0M:~# apt-get update >> > ... >> > root@DESKTOP-U13FH0M:~# apt-get install sagemath-upstream-binary >> > ... >> > root@DESKTOP-U13FH0M:/mnt/c/Users/VulK# sage >> > >> > SageMath version 7.2, Release Date: 2016-05-15 >> > Type "notebook()" for the browser-based notebook interface. >> > Type "help()" for help. >> > >> > sage: 2+2 >> > 4 >> > sage: >> > >> > >> > even the notebook seems to work just fine. I did not play with x11 yet. >> > >> > If I am not mistaken Bash should be available to everyone with the upcoming >> > windows update without the need to install a developer preview. >> > Best >> > S. >> > >> > >> > TLDR: there is no need to support windows directly any more: it can now run >> > executables compiled for Ubuntu >> >> I disagree for a few reasons: >> >> 1) This is not available to all Windows users. >> 2) Currently this feature is intended as a developer tool only; >> Microsoft has stated explicitly that it is not intended for end-user >> application distribution on Windows. That said, I see no reason it >> couldn't be used that way, but there are limitations to its use for >> that purpose. For example, it is a walled garden--it is not possible, >> for example, to run native applications within the "bash" environment >> 3) It's unclear what performance impact this has over a native >> application. Less, certainly, than using Cygwin. >> >> Probably others as well. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "sage-devel" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
