+1 (both for Jeroen proposition and John intervention)
Indeed the -1 from William is just about a general philosophy that he
will be of no help implementing.
I agree with Erik remark but holding this move makes it just worse. And
doing it will not prevent us from analyzing why we failed keeping Sagenb
leaving outside of Sage.
On 15/04/16 13:06, John H Palmieri wrote:
+1.
For those who disagree, please recognize that the current situation is
unmanageable: there are interdependencies between sage and sagenb, so
certain changes in sage require changes in sagenb. Getting those changes
done in sagenb is difficult, because sagenb is not really actively
maintained. So if you disagree, please suggest a concrete alternative,
because (as Jeroen says) the status quo is not working.
John
On Friday, April 15, 2016 at 1:44:22 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
Hello all,
I propose to make SageNB no longer a separate package but to move it
back into the Sage git tree. For purposes of installation and use of
SageNB, it will still be a separate Python package, but the sources will
be in $SAGE_ROOT/src/sagenb instead of a separate git repo. The changes
to the Sage build system to support this move will be minimal.
The reason is that SageNB is truly in maintenance mode currently. Making
new SageNB releases regularly to fix things is a burden for the SageNB
release manager Karl-Dieter Crisman. On #14840 [1], he said "the sooner
sagenb gets back in Sage proper, the better!"
The original reason to split SageNB from Sage was to enable quick
development. That worked for a while, but now that development has
stalled, this reason no longer applies. A secondary reason was to make
SageNB truly independent from Sage, but that also never happened. So I
see no reason to keep SageNB split from Sage currently.
I know this is a controversial proposal, but it will certainly be easier
to maintain SageNB this way. I also want to stress that this is
orthogonal to any future deprecation or removal of SageNB: we can still
do that from the Sage git tree.
Jeroen.
[1] http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/14840#comment:58
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