To revive a very old thread, OpenSSL is now in the process of
switching to a GPL-compatible license, finally!

   https://www.openssl.org/blog/blog/2015/08/01/cla/

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:45 AM, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Volker Braun <vbraun.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Since libSystem.B.dylib is a os library we shouldn't have to care. Also, I
>> don't think apple ships openssl since its not featured in apple ads ;-)
>>
>> Question for notebook developers: Do we actually use python's ssl module?
>> The notebook code seems to have gnutls support, see
>> e.g. sagenb/notebook/gnutls_socket_ssl.py
>
> Quick remark:  this was something we hacked together to make Twisted
> work with GNUtls, since Twisted does not support that officially.
> Using openssl instead would have been much easier.
>
> As far as I know, the ways crypto libs are used in Sage are:
>
>   (1) to make it so the notebook can be served securely.
>
>   (2) Mercurial requires (at least) libcrypt, or it won't do anything.
>
>   (3) It is likely (?) that the pycrypto Python library that Sage
> includes depends on having "import crypt" work, but I'm not sure.
>
> Personally, I would love to dump the following spkg's from Sage:
>
>    gnutls
>    python_gnutls
>    gcrypt
>    libgpg_error
>    opencdk
>
> and either (a) require a system-wide ssl, or (b) include openssl in Sage.
>
> Sage used to be (b) -- i.e., it did not include any of the above
> packages, and did include openssl.  Then a student in my class pointed
> out that openssl is not GPL-compatible [1], so I suffered greatly
> swapping it out for the above libraries.  However, we never binary
> link any GPL code with openssl -- any linking is done via Python at
> runtime -- so maybe shipping openssl would be OK.
>
> More to the point, (a) would be a great solution, if we're already
> requiring *some* systemwide libcrypt* to build Sage anyways.  Why not
> make that explicit, get rid of five annoying packages (which take a
> while to build, etc.), and be done with it?    According to [1] again,
> "The GPL also contains a 'special exception' which allows your GPL-ed
> program to link against GPL incompatible libraries which are shipped
> as part of the operating system that the executable runs on.", so (a)
> is legal.  However, it seems possible that (b) is not legal since the
> GPL says "the source code distributed need not include  anything that
> is normally distributed (in either source or binary  form) with the
> major components (compiler, kernel, and so on) of the  operating
> system on which the executable runs, unless that component itself
> accompanies the executable."
>
> [1] http://people.gnome.org/~markmc/openssl-and-the-gpl.html
>
>  -- William
>
>>
>>
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