Hi Andrew,

On 2014-11-27, Andrew <andrew.mat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Because s/he is, for whatever reason, not able to. S/he is doing a 
>> mistake. But this can not be an excuse for people to commit the same 
>> mistake, even though they would be able to avoid it. 
>>
>
> Hi Simon, You seem to be saying that if, for some reason, person A can't 
> help it then it's OK but person B should not respond in the same way. 
> Whilst I agree that this can happen, what if Person B is unable, for 
> whatever reason, to contain themselves? Then, in response, Person A is 
> again unable to contain themselves, for whatever reason, ... Where does it 
> stop?

You seem to be saying that a substantial part of the members of our
society shows anti-social behaviour.

I do not share that rather pessimistic point of view.

Anyway, if we really were in the situation that you seem to assume, then
of course it won't stop. The society would be doomed. And a code of conduct
couldn't change it, IMHO.


> Wouldn't it be better if Person A just learned, for whatever reason, 
> to contain themselves?

Yes, it would. But a code of conduct is likely to not achieve it. To the
contrary, the fake authority of a code of conduct could lead some people
to engage in anti-social behaviour, since they can instrument the code of
conduct to bash or bully other members of the society.

This is not just a theory. Dima has mentioned that the situation reminds
him what he has experienced in soviet union. And early in this thread, I
have mentioned that it reminds me what is happening in far too many
German schools.

Astoundingly, some people here seem to say that a code of conduct is a very
American thing, while others seem to say that a code of conduct is a very
stalinist instrument...

Best regards,
Simon


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