On 2014-11-26, Volker Braun <vbraun.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 2:41:32 PM UTC, vdelecroix wrote:
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>> I would have started any official text by "Anybody 
>> is welcome to contribute" or something like that.
>
>
> That sounds like a mission statement, not like a code of conduct. 
>
> Really, much of the 2-week discussion was just cultural confusion about 
> what a code of conduct is. Mostly from the non-Americans who have never 
> seen such a thing.
To the contary, I have seen way too much of this shit in my youth, FYI.
"Laws of the pioneers of the Soviet Union",
"Moral codex of a young builder of Communism", 
etc etc ad nauseum...
 
>  And I understand your culture shock in that regard. 
I have had very unhappy memories vividly recalled by this thread.
I have better things to do than to manage this, really...

> On 
> the other side were people that are quite familiar with codes of conducts 
> in other organizations and were just as rightfully confused that we can't 
> even agree on being nice to each other.
>
> Also, during the lengthy discussion there were very few concrete actionable 
> suggestions for changes. You were one of the few honorable exceptions when 
> you put the text on the wiki to make changes. But so far there has only 
> been one edit by yourself, so I think its fair to say that this did not 
> gather much momentum. Still I would be happy if people can come up with 
> relevant changes, but please keep it on the topic of a code of conduct.
>
>  Even Volker was not able to 
>> vote because of his teaching. 
>>
>
> I could have voted, but I didn't. Mostly because I think that the whole 
> discussion was more useful than a text tucked away on the web page when it 
> comes to reminding everyone to stay civil. So I would have counted either 
> outcome as a win...
>
> You can not state "be nice" as an order. The only thing which makes 
>> sense is to say "welcome". 
>
>
> Then why is it called Kant's categorial imperative, should we rephrase it 
> as Kant's categorial suggestion?  Its just an English language thing. If 
> you want to argue about it please include other codes of conduct and 
> explain why they are wrong, too.
>
>  
>

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