On 3 Nov 2014 22:05, "William Stein" <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I usually ignore RJF, but in this I just want to encourage everybody
> else to also ignore him too... regarding his discouragement about
> everything, especially Ursula's excellent suggestion.   I'm sure the
> AMS would be very interesting in publishing

William,
like you I tend to ignore RJF. In engineering terms,  his signal to noise
ratio is too low! Too much rubbish,  with a small amount of useful
information.

But I think you need to take what RJF said in context, which was a reply to
Jason's comment that:

"It would be interesting to see if Sage can do the calculation they
identified as buggy in mathematica.  That would make for a cool follow-up
editorial."

I don't think the fact Sage can do something that Mathematica can't would
form the basis of a cool follow-up editorial. It seems almost childish to
try to publish the actual Sage code that computes it correctly.

Unless I overlooked it,  Ursula made no suggestion, so I can't see how it
could be an excellent suggestion. She wrote

"So is somebody actively working on a followup editorial/ letter to the
editor?"

which is a question,  not a suggestion. Perhaps I overlooked a suggestion
from Ursula. If so I apologise.

I can see that there could be a number of follow up comments about the
article. But too much emphasis on Sage's ability to perform the computation
correctly would make it like a childish pi**ing contest.

The question is really what would a follow comment add, that is genuinely
useful to the readers?

The fact that the database of bugs in open source software are  public, but
Mathematica's bug list are not,  has already been made. I know one of the
reasons WRI gave for not making bug reports public is because often they
are user errors.

Perhaps the mathematical community needs to have an open-access database of
bug reports for commercial software. A discussion of the usefulness,
legality,  practicality, commercial benefits etc. of such a database could
be interesting.

I wonder if Wolfram Research will write anything?

<joke> Would the modest Stephen Wolfram make a humble apology? </joke>

Dave.

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