On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 17:59:49 +0200
Jonas Jermann <jjerma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 17.09.2014 17:29, Marc Mezzarobba wrote:
> > Jonas Jermann wrote:
> >> What would you suggest I do to get a fast exact sign/comparison?
> >
> > Just a wild guess, but you may want to see if the patch at
> >
> > http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/15600
> >
> > helps.
> 
> It doesn't (also note that the polynomials here have deg=4 < 8).

"the polynomials"?

  sage: el2 = (791264*AA(2*cos(pi/8))^2 - 463492).sqrt()
  sage: el2._exact_value()
  [ something horrible involving a polynomial of degree 16 ]

This is pretty fast though:
  sage: x = var('x')
  sage: el1 = AA((x^4 - 2238072*x^2 + 44133904).roots()[1][0])
  sage: el3 = (791264*AA(2*cos(pi/8))^2 - 463492)
  sage: el1 > 0
  True
  sage: el3 > 0
  True
  sage: el1^2 == el3
  True
Perhaps there is a way around the sqrt in your algorithm?

Actually this is interesting:
  sage: el3 = (791264*AA(2*cos(pi/8))^2 - 463492)
  sage: el2 = el3.sqrt()
  sage: el2._descr
  Root 1496.012125692029503? of x^2 - 2.238052280217585?e6
  sage: el2.exactify()
  sage: el2._descr
  [ that horrible thing ]
So in this case the old description would give a much more efficient
comparison. Unfortunately, it's discarded...


Regards,

Erik Massop

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