Hi Sage-devs, Is there anybody out there whose interested in (greatly) increasing the number of optional gap packages in the optional GAP spkg for Sage?
This thread has a lot of info about this. In particular, this would be very beneficial to SageMathCloud... -- William On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Alexander Konovalov <alexander.konova...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, September 1, 2014 10:30:30 AM UTC+1, Stein William wrote: >> >> I'm cc'ing this to sage-devel. It is about GAPs long, long list of >> packages, most of which we don't include or even package optionally >> for Sage... >> >> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 3:18 AM, Alexander Konovalov >> <alexander...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Friday, August 29, 2014 8:06:33 AM UTC+1, Stein William wrote: >> >> > There are a large number of packages here. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > http://www.gap-system.org/Packages/packages.html >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Which ones should I install? All of them? Some of them? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Can you ask at the meeting? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Do you know if I could install *all* of them, or do some change >> >> >> >> behavior of Gap and interfere with others? Or, like with Python, >> >> >> >> possibly increase startup time. >> >> >> > >> > Installing all packages will not increase GAP startup time, since they >> > are not loaded (it's not a good idea to load all packages simultaneously). >> > It will only increase the disk space used by GAP. OTOH, the user will be >> > able to use GAP help system to search across manuals of ALL packages >> > installed on the system. >> > >> > Then, since the same packages will be loaded after default GAP startup, >> > the user will have the same experience in both cases. >> > >> > Furthermore, testing the GAP distribution, we ensure that this >> > particular set of packages is fitting together, so I'd not guarantee that >> > tearing it apart will not cause any side effects. >> > >> >> Can I use BOB to install all the "accepted GAP packages" into an >> existing GAP install? It seems to me that BOB both builds GAP and >> installs all packages into that GAP. I don't want that -- I instead >> want to use the GAP I built as part of Sage. >> >> Also, in general, my understanding is that installing a GAP package is >> explained here >> >> http://www.gap-system.org/Manuals/doc/ref/chap76.html#X7B6CD527825945CD >> >> and basically that says to download the package, extract it, and >> read/guess/etc. what to do next. In particular, what to do can be >> anything from nothing, to really complicated, and there's no single >> script to just run. I was expecting that I could just make a list of >> packages and type something like >> >> gap -i names of packages ... >> >> and it would install all of them, like every other package system I've >> ever used does (e.g., R, Pypi, Sage's, npm, and many others). If >> BOB can basically do exactly this, then that's very, very cool and a >> great contribution to GAP. If you could quickly summarize the >> situation about what BOB can actually do with an existing GAP install, >> it would be greatly appreciated. (I haven't just tried diving into >> BOB due to lack of time.) >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- William > > > Thank you for questions. At the moment, BOB performs a new install, so it's > not suitable to update an existing GAP installation. That is a suggestion > for the future perhaps, for BOB or for any other package manager for GAP > that may appear. I was recommending BOB in response to Samuel saying "... > alternatively, would it be possible to have a separate full GAP install?". > If you prefer just to add some more packages to the GAP version that is > built as part of Sage, and do not want all of them for some reasons, then it > would be great at least to ensure that all packages listed under the > 'PackagesToLoad' user preference in lib/package.gi are included: > > default:= [ "autpgrp", "alnuth", "crisp", "ctbllib", "factint", "fga", > "irredsol", "laguna", "polenta", "polycyclic", "resclasses", > "sophus", "tomlib" ], > > > But the actual list will be larger, since these default packages have some > dependencies, as can be seen from the GAP startup information: > > ┌───────┐ GAP, Version 4.7.5 of 24-May-2014 (free software, GPL) > │ GAP │ http://www.gap-system.org > └───────┘ Architecture: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc-default64 > Libs used: gmp, readline > Loading the library and packages ... > Components: trans 1.0, prim 2.1, small* 1.0, id* 1.0 > Packages: AClib 1.2, Alnuth 3.0.0, AtlasRep 1.5.0, AutPGrp 1.6, > Browse 1.8.5, Carat 2.1.4, CRISP 1.3.8, Cryst 4.1.12, > CrystCat 1.1.6, CTblLib 1.2.2, FactInt 1.5.3, FGA 1.2.0, > GAPDoc 1.5.1, IO 4.3.1, IRREDSOL 1.2.4, LAGUNA 3.6.4, > Polenta 1.3.2, Polycyclic 2.11, RadiRoot 2.7, ResClasses 3.3.2, > Sophus 1.23, SpinSym 1.5, TomLib 1.2.4 > Try '?help' for help. See also '?copyright' and '?authors' > gap> > > > Ideally, starting GAP from Sage, one should be able to see the same. > > Best regards > > Alexander > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- William Stein Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org wst...@uw.edu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. 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