On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 4:16:46 PM UTC+2, bluescarni wrote:
>
> My impression is that the Scipy-Numpy-Sympy ecosystem is a better fit than 
> Sage, at least for numerical purposes. 
>

Mine too, and despite Sage lacking with updates there is nobody holding you 
back from working with just that stack in Sage and access additional 
features on demand. We should make sure that installing additional packages 
via pip does work (hence, we have to update numpy/scipy and so on from time 
to time to get pandas&co working) but besides that this is fine.

There are only two major issues:
* compatibility: e.g. the .numpy() of a sage matrix gives you something for 
numpy. one has to know that.
* out-of-the-box: The Sage preparser breaks an awful lot of things if you 
do not know that it is transforming your input. Personally, I was never 
very fond of it but I fully understand why it is there. 

Me dreaming: All of the above could be solved by yet another additional 
sage spkg, which does not only add many of the numerical python libs, but 
also changes some of the internals (like, disabling the preparser). The 
actual question would be if that triggers any interest. I don't think so...

--H

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