On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 5:30 PM, kcrisman <kcris...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Who takes care of sagenb.org nowadays?
>> >> e.g. maintenance and security?
>> >
>> > Jason Grout took care of it for the last few years.  He posted that he
>> > will not be able to take care of it (and also
>> > http://sagecell.sagemath.org/) recently, and asked for volunteers.
>> > Andrey Novoseltsev volunteered to maintain sagecell, but *nobody*
>> > volunteered to maintain sagenb.org.
>> >
>> > Unless somebody steps forward, it will be end-of-lifed soon-ish (or
>> > least set to read-only mode for a while), since it's a risk to me...
>>
>> If nobody steps up to maintain sagenb.org by June 2014, I will change
>> it to run in read-only mode for a few months, then shut it down.
>>
>> If somebody does step up to maintain it, we'll create a virtual
>> machine, and they will have to setup everything to run in that virtual
>> machine.
>>
>
> I really wish I could commit this time, since I believe that this service
> has been very useful and a lot of people have legacy stuff, but I know my
> limitations (both in terms of nonexistent sysadmin skills and time) and
> can't volunteer.
>
> Related: what is the status of the following:
>
> 1) *.sagenb.org for values of * other than this?

Basically the same -- it's all running on the same hardware.  Some of
the *.sagenb.org servers are part of an NSF project, and restricted to
certain specific test sites, so they are temporarily going to remain.

> 2) Publishing from the cloud? (In the sense of the "published worksheets".)

I have some ideas about how to safely allow it.

> This was actually one of the most important things sagenb.org brought to the
> world.
>
> <riff>
> Given that we have the ability to scrub the worksheets and only put the
> actual input code up there, I would strongly support a "legacy page" which
> re"publishes" code only (that is, just as text/css, no js) of the whole
> stash of publishes worksheets somewhere like
> sagemath.org/oldnotebookexamples/ or something.   Given that
> interact.sagemath.org hasn't (yet) taken off as much as it might, this is a
> huge repository of actual working examples for people trying to use Sage
> usefully.  Which would be very useful for people thinking about using cloud
> or Sage locally... it's amazing how many people still look at Sage examples
> from its prehistory.
>
> In fact, it sounds a lot like quite a few things I've been reading recently
> about OSS and building clientele/business.  Not having it available,
> including from links on help lists/ask.sagemath, has definitely hurt.
> </riff>

True.  It's too bad there are so many malicious / abusive people out
there, which just makes this technically more difficult....

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