On Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:31:45 AM UTC-7, Volker Braun wrote:
>
> First of all, its the Google summer of code and not the Microsoft summer 
> of code ;-)
>
> On Thursday, May 30, 2013 5:07:22 PM UTC+1, rjf wrote:
>
>> While it is hard to count how many people are using free software by 
>> looking
>> at (say) sourceforge statistics --- some people get secondary 
>> distributions --
>> for packages of Maxima, the vast majority of direct downloads, at least, 
>> are for
>> Windows.
>
>
> That is because everyone but Microsoft has solved the problem of package 
> management. 
>

Yes, I agree that secondary distributions for linux means they are 
undercounted.
I do not know if Windows is truly in decline.

However, the latest Windows release of Maxima shows 1,545,527  direct 
downloads.


Every linux distribution lets you install maxima with a one-liner, 
> cryptographic chain of trust to the packager included. Maxima for windows 
> still requires you to download an executable file from the internet with a 
> web browser. Your download statistics is for users without package 
> management.
>  
>
>> Sage architects seem to believe it epitomizes a high level of software
>> engineering. Yet it cannot be run natively on the (still) most highly
>> available platform. 
>>
>
> Or as I call it, the most quickly declining platform. You would do a 
> disservice to students to teach them today about platforms that will 
> clearly be obsolete by the time they will enter the workforce.
>

I think you badly underestimate the value of a skilled Microsoft Windows 
expert now and over the
next decade or more.  I don't care for the Windows development environment, 
I am hardly
an expert on it though.  I have had students working for me who became 
skilled in using
it and found it (eventually) to be quite productive.  As I said previously, 
I think the lack of
a mentor in this area may disqualify GSoC Sage projects in this subject.
 

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