On Friday, April 19, 2013 11:02:01 PM UTC+2, yomcat wrote:
>
> On 20/04/2013, at 8:13 AM, Jean-Pierre Flori <jpf...@gmail.com<javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > On Friday, April 19, 2013 8:58:15 PM UTC+2, yomcat wrote: 
> >> 
> >> On 20/04/2013, at 4:43 AM, Jean-Pierre Flori 
> >> <jpf...@gmail.com<javascript:>> 
>
> >> wrote: 
> >>> Dear all, 
> >>> 
> >>> We are currently updating the "install from source" doc at #14465, but 
> >> I'm 
> >>> a little lost about what to say for Mac OS X, see 
> >>> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/14465#comment:4. 
> >>> It has been previously stated that the "Command line tools" of Xcode 
> >> were 
> >>> sufficient and could be downloaded separately form Apple dev site, but 
> >> it 
> >>> does not seem to be the case anymore (I've registered there, there's 
> >> only 
> >>> Java stuff and old Xcode 3.*). 
> >> That's odd. My Apple Dev thing (free version) looks like 
> >> http://yomcat.geek.nz/sage/clt.PNG (that's just logging in at 
> >> http://developer.apple.com/downloads). 
> >> 
> > Strange, I just see that: 
> > http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/jpflori/mac.png 
> > Not so nice as yours... 
> > Did I screw something up when registering? 
> > Does Apple hate me? 
> I'm going for the second one. 
> I tried from a Linux machine, and it worked the same as my OS X one. I 
> have no idea why it doesn't like you. It should. 
> > 
> >>> First it seems xcode is now free, cannot really check as I have no Mac 
> >> and 
> >>> so no access to the Mac App Store. 
> >> This is true. 
> >>> Second, from what I see at https://developer.apple.com/xcode/, it's 
> >> stated 
> >>> that this "command line tools" part is an optional part of xcode that 
> >> you 
> >>> can download from within xcode. 
> >> Also true. 
> >>> So it would mean that to get the "command line tools", you need to 
> >> install 
> >>> xcode first... 
> >> It's one way, and the way that I use. However, you can download them 
> >> directly from Apple, as shown in the screenshot above. 
> >>> 
> >>> So should we suggest the user to install xcode and then download these 
> >>> optional "command line tools"? 
> >> I say yes, as it seems easier. I have had issues trying to download 
> from 
> >> the Apple dev site. 
> >>> Or is this optional part useless once the user has installed Xcode? 
> >> No. Just installing XCode does not give the command line tools. You 
> need 
> >> to go into prefs and manually download them. 
> >> 
> > Yes i got that. 
> > So you confirm that command line tools are needed, just installing Xcode 
> > without the optional package is not enough. 
> Yes, this. XCode without the CLT is useless (as far as Sage is concerned) 
> >> Or is there a hidden place from where you can download the "command 
> line 
> > 
> >>> tools" alone as 
> >>> 
> stackoverflow.com/questions/9329243/xcode-4-4-command-line-toolssuggests? 
> >> It's not very hidden, though it appears to change monthly, and it's 
> >> different if you're on Lion or Mountain Lion. 
> >>> 
> >>> Best, 
> >>> JP 
> >> 
> >> Michael 
>
> Ok, I even found command line tools mentioned here: 
https://developer.apple.com/opensource/

About the registration, its strange, I just created two other "Apple ID"s 
but the result is the same... 

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