On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Robert Bradshaw <
rober...@math.washington.edu> wrote:

> Hasn't this been discussed several times already? I consider startup time
> to be one of our biggest bugs... If we need to, lets bump it to 4 or even
> 10 seconds or something so at least we don't have egregious regressions. Or
> replace it with something better (e.g. it only fails if the load is so
> small, or looks at user time, or time(startup) < time(0.0x * sage
> -testall)).
>
>
Maybe I should buy a computer just for this test, and call it
startup.math.washington.edu... :-)


>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Volker Braun <vbraun.n...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I'm fine with removing the timing, but we should test somewhere that lazy
>> imports are not accidentally imported during startup. Right now that file
>> checks that numpy isn't imported. Though maybe it would be good to move it
>> to a better-named file ;-)
>>
>>
>> On Monday, January 7, 2013 10:21:53 PM UTC, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>>>
>>> The test in devel/sage/sage/tests/startup.**py has been bothering me
>>> for a
>>> while already.  It's way too unreliable to be useful, it depends too
>>> much on the system load (both I/O and CPU).  And system load on
>>> sage.math is quite high lately...  Because of this, I tend to ignore
>>> this test anyway, so we might as well remove it.
>>>
>>> I'm all for replacing the test by something more objective which doesn't
>>> depend on the phase of the moon, but let's first get rid of the current
>>> stupid test.
>>>
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