>I could hope for 4-5 that will use Sage in the long run, and 20 that > definitely see the point but will get stuck by lack of infrastructure > and expertise. These sound like great numbers.
>> I think to break the barrier and make a true sage days really >> productive, I think that you would need to partner with some >> organization like OLPC (one laptop per child) or arrange to >> minimize the problems with your hardware. > Well, I have a good contact for that: dad :-) We actually already used > Sage on our home OLPC, although only through a remote Sage server. I I just mentioned OLPC because that was an organization I had heard of. I didn't know your dad was associated, but what an awesome contact to have. I don't yet see how to overcome infrastructure problems. I would summarize my experience as: 1. don't use the internet (you can't count on it anyway) 2. most computers have some old version of Windows 3. a few students will have their own laptops 4. Most students will have little or no computer experience 5. Most want to learn computers and see the point, a few choose to be luddites and can afford to because the infrastructure is so unreliable > Of course, the real thing would be to integrate a resource-optimized > version of Sage within the Sugar activities. This probably won't be a > priority for OLPC, since their main target population is children of > age 6-12, but as you say we could explore other organizations as well. At the events I have been involved with, our highest priority was to minimize the infrastructure difficulties. AIMS in South Africa sounds like it might be a good place to organize an event since you could potentially rely on computer access. -Mike On Monday, 12 November 2012 04:52:27 UTC-5, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 08:07:06PM -0800, Mike Zabrocki wrote: > > Wow! Nicolas fantastic report. That was a challenge to do. > > Thanks :-) > > > I hope you managed a convert or two in Africa. My experience with > > computer classes as part of a summer school (in Ghana, Kenya, > > Tanzania and Madagascar) is similar except I never had a wifi > > network and most of my students didn't have regular computer access. > > Most of my students were complete novices to the computer, but > > willing to learn. Installing sage was several steps beyond what we > > tried. I would say that most of the infrastructure that we had > > access to would not support sage (most computers were dated > > pre-python, though I did not have the expertise to make this work). > > I could hope for 4-5 that will use Sage in the long run, and 20 that > definitely see the point but will get stuck by lack of infrastructure > and expertise. > > But as you said: �if our problem was only network, we were in pretty > good shape to start with�. We had a selection of students that were > definitely computer-literate (somehow, the main difficulty was to > prevent them from running to facebook&all and eat up all the bandwidth > whenever the network was working :-) ), even though most did not have > programming experience. > > > I think to break the barrier and make a true sage days really > > productive, I think that you would need to partner with some > > organization like OLPC (one laptop per child) or arrange to > > minimize the problems with your hardware. > > Well, I have a good contact for that: dad :-) We actually already used > Sage on our home OLPC, although only through a remote Sage server. I > doubt the old models can support running Sage locally, but for the > upcoming models we certainly will have a shot (at least running in a > terminal). > > Of course, the real thing would be to integrate a resource-optimized > version of Sage within the Sugar activities. This probably won't be a > priority for OLPC, since their main target population is children of > age 6-12, but as you say we could explore other organizations as well. > > Cheers, > Nicolas > -- > Nicolas M. Thi�ry "Isil" <nth...@users.sf.net <javascript:>> > http://Nicolas.Thiery.name/ > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel?hl=en.
