>
>
> > I've updated #10133 with this apparent consensus.  Note that in the 
> > partial duplicate #10972 Burcin seemed to think that they should 
> > return symbolic expressions, but Simon's argument seems reasonable to 
> > me as well. 
>
> ??? 
>
> The quote on that ticket is from you: 
>
>
Really?  Sorry, I was just trying to invoke a higher authority than myself 
:) 

I think that the instructions on the ticket (from you then, I guess) 
hopefully already will give someone the ideas, but of course feel free to 
update now as well.

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