On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Keshav Kini <keshav.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Robert Bradshaw <rober...@math.washington.edu> writes:
>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:54 AM, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Robert Bradshaw
>>> <rober...@math.washington.edu> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Jason Grout
>>>> <jason-s...@creativetrax.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/18/12 8:05 PM, John H Palmieri wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, June 18, 2012 3:34:15 AM UTC-7, Nathann Cohen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Helloooooooooo everybody !!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Our graph files are getting quite large, and there is in some
>>>>>>     situations a way to make it shorter : we can define some functions
>>>>>>     in modules and import them in the Graph class afterwards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The matrix class is large, and is basically broken up into three (or
>>>>>> four) files: matrix0.pyx, matrix1.pyx, matrix2.pyx (and matrix.pyx).
>>>>>> Maybe you could use that approach.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And there has been discussion that it was broken up because of limitations
>>>>> in Cython from long ago, and it should be recombined again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally, it's a bit confusing to try to find which method is in which
>>>>> file when you're trying to change something...
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>
>>> -1
>>>
>>> I'm in fact surprised by Robert's +1.
>>>
>>> This suggestion is very ironic, because the "limitation" that caused
>>> me to have to break up the files in the first place is that it takes a
>>> *long* time to compile the autogenerated code.  That certainly hasn't
>>> changed -- if anything, things are worse now, since Cython generates
>>> even more code.  Recombining them will only make it much more painful
>>> to work on these files.
>>>
>>> If anything, it would be good to break them up even further, but in
>>> some logical way.  The main improvements in Cython over the years are
>>> that it is much, much easier to break big code into smaller files.
>>>
>>> Doctesting is also bad when you have one big file.  I'm against having
>>> a 20,000 line .pyx file in Sage, which is exactly what you're
>>> proposing.   The autogenerated C code would be over 100,000 lines.
>>> One file.
>>
>> I stand by my position that it's a hack to have to break things up due
>> to technical limitations of compilation/testing. Maybe a necessary
>> hack, but we've contorted the code due to tool limitations, not
>> because it's a good way to organize things. (Perhaps things could be
>> laid out more logically, but having authored much of the code in
>> question, I still couldn't tell you without looking it up if
>> Matrix.augment() was in matrix0, matrix1, or matrix2.)
>
> +1 to all this, for what it's worth.
>
> -Keshav

Seriously?  You guys actually *want* a single 20,000 line Cython file?
Why?   The only argument you are giving is that you can't remember
which file something is in, so let's just put everything in one
massive file.   I'm clearly missing something.

 -- William

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