Simon King <simon.k...@uni-jena.de> writes:
> Got it! Gnus-Emacs found news.gmane.org, and from there I could
> subscribe sage-support.
Yup, news.gmane.org is the NNTP server, and once you connect to it you
can subscribe to or otherwise view different groups. You should create a
file called ~/.gnus.el and use it to set news.gmane.org as the default
NNTP server. Here is my ~/.gnus.el file:
(setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "gmane"
(nntp-pre-command "tsocks")
(nntp-open-connection-function nntp-open-netcat-stream)
(nntp-address "news.gmane.org")))
(setq gnus-save-killed-list nil)
(setq gnus-read-newsrc-file nil)
(setq gnus-save-newsrc-file nil)
; default subscription patterns
(setq gnus-options-subscribe "gmane\.comp\.mathematics\.sage\..*")
; sending mail
(setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
Some of that stuff you won't need, like the tsocks thing - that was
because my university apparently blocks NNTP - I guess because it can be
used for "nefarious" purposes to download movies, music, etc. which
pirates post on certain "binary newsgroups" where all the emails are
just file attachments. So I use tsocks to proxy through sage.math all
connections to any remote servers on port 119. (I hope this is not
considered abuse of sage.math login privileges...) A simple version of
those lines would be...
(setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.gmane.org"))
I haven't really figured out how the default subscription options
work... I just tried to set that variable but I didn't really see any
effect.
The "sending mail" line in case I wanted to use SMTP to send
mails. If you send followups or post articles directly through NNTP you
get an anti-spam challenge email from Gmane which you must reply to
before your email is allowed to be sent through to the list, which
sounded annoying, so at first I decided I would send everything through
SMTP. But apparently Gmane only anti-spam checks you once each time you
post to a new group, which I can deal with, so I usually just post via
NNTP.
I notice that when I manually add "CC: foo bar <f...@bar.com>" lines to
my drafts, when I send them, Gnus tries to send them through both NNTP
and then SMTP. I guess it thinks that the NNTP server won't forward the
mail to the CC list. But apparently Gmane actually does this, so it's
unnecessary to send it again through SMTP. I haven't figured out how to
turn this behavior off yet...
Useful commands: in the group list, l shows all subscribed groups with
unread messages in them (the default view when you start gnus with "M-x
gnus"). L shows all subscribed and unsubscribed groups (i.e. groups
which you subscribed but then later unsubscribed - to get rid of them
from this view you must not just unsubscribe but also kill them by
highlighting them and hitting C-k).
So usually I subscribe to groups I want to read all messages in (like
gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel), and subscribe and then unsubscribe
to other mailing lists I'm interested in (like
gmane.comp.python.ipython.devel, say). You can also do A-A to show all
groups on gmane for the purpose of finding ones to subscribe to.
In the list of messages within a specific group, /-N for "refreshing"
(looking for new messages), /-o for loading a specified number of old
messages beyond what are already displayed. Selecting an article and
typing A-T will attempt to load all other messages in the thread, though
this sometimes fails to find all of the thread because it works by
checking the references to other messages in the header, not by fuzzy
matching of the Subject line as Google Groups does it, and some people's
email clients don't use the proper references in the headers.
e to edit an article (say if you're looking at your drafts), f to
followup (i.e. reply), F to followup while quoting the message, a to
send a new message from scratch (i.e. start a new thread).
When editing a draft, C-c C-k to abandon it, C-c C-c to send it, and...
um, C-x C-s to save the draft (or :w for me since I use evil-mode :) ).
Most or all of this is visible from the menus if you have menus turned
on in Emacs.
Hope this helps! And maybe you can teach me something else which you
have figured out :)
-Keshav
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