On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:00 PM, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Dr. David Kirkby
> <david.kir...@onetel.net> wrote:
>> On 02/ 8/12 09:41 AM, Julien Puydt wrote:
>>>
>>> Le mardi 7/2/2012, David Kirkby<david.kir...@onetel.net>  a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, from a developers point of view, it is not the easiest
>>>> language to learn, and my experience of many Sage developers would
>>>> suggest they will not be over keen on studying the details
>>>> of .autoconf I can't exactly blame them either.
>>>
>>>
>>> If there were :
>>> (1) some documentation on autoconf in sage ;
>>
>>
>> That sounds like re-inventing the wheel, as others have written
>> documentation on autoconf. Unless there is anything Sage-specific, I don't
>> see the need for this.
>>
>>
>>> (2) with already a few things converted to serve as examples ;
>>
>>
>> There are lots of examples on the web, but I still believe a good
>> understanding is required to write decent scripts for a non-trivial project
>> like Sage. I don't think someone will get that by looking at others.
>>
>>
>>> Then that would already cover a large proportion of the cases by
>>> copy-pasting!
>>
>>
>> I don't think its that easy to do it right.
>>
>>> Snark on #sagemath
>>>
>>
>> I like the idea, and may be able to offer some help, but I'm aware this is a
>> non-trivial project. The rewards would be pretty great though.
>
> After following this whole thread, I still have absolutely no idea
> what this "non-trivial project" even is.  What functionality is being
> proposed to add to the Sage build system?

I'm also curious how the top-level makefile would benefit from a
(auto)configured, and what the implications would be for installing
things (such as sage -i ...) when being invoked via this top-level
make file. I do really like the idea of using (documented and checked)
flags rather than random environment variables to control how things
are build globally, as well as, if possible, persisting the decisions
once ./configure is done running.

- Robert

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